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BainsBane

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45. Exactly, which is why a conscientious objector status would be unnecessary.

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Conscientious Objection poll [View all] Ken Burch Mar 2015 OP

I believe the requirement should be for national service BainsBane Mar 2015 #1

That's slavery and is unconstitutional. bananas Mar 2015 #10

There has been a draft in this country you know BainsBane Mar 2015 #11

And yet that's exactly how it is. bananas Mar 2015 #14

That reasoning would make military service by draft a form of slavery Silent3 Mar 2015 #37

Yes, and that reasoning was taken to the Supreme Court in 1918 bananas Mar 2015 #46

I suggest you do some reading on slavery BainsBane Mar 2015 #54

It's not slavery if the conscripts are adequately paid meow2u3 Mar 2015 #43

That's involuntary servitude, which is also illegal and unconstitutional. bananas Mar 2015 #50

Interesting point, but no one is going to conscientiously objecto Ken Burch Mar 2015 #16

Exactly, which is why a conscientious objector status would be unnecessary. BainsBane Mar 2015 #45

Except it's illegal and unconstitutional. bananas Mar 2015 #52

What can "manditory national service" do that cannot be... stone space Mar 2015 #27

The idea of national service BainsBane Mar 2015 #55

NO More war!!! onecaliberal Mar 2015 #2

I agree, but what about this? NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #26

Offer them all refugee status, pay for them to relocate to the US Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #30

We do need to help the Afghan women and Children. onecaliberal Mar 2015 #33

Thus a tough call, not as simple as some make it out to be. NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #34

I'm not criticizing POTUS. He inherited this whole mess. onecaliberal Mar 2015 #35

Sorry but if the American people want the draft which the military doesn't want anyway, then under yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #3

You're assuming war and the draft can be done right. Ken Burch Mar 2015 #4

Oh I know. I say my BS above because I don't think we could have a draft even if we wanted too yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #5

Thanks for clarifying. n/t. Ken Burch Mar 2015 #6

Anytime! Have a great night! yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #7

Conscientious objectors made their case to the warmongers. bananas Mar 2015 #12

So let's NOT do it. John Poet Mar 2015 #18

Everybody should be drafted sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #8

Even if that were the case, TPTB would still get cushy spots for their own. BillZBubb Mar 2015 #9

I voted NO fadedrose Mar 2015 #13

How 'bout we just say NO to war? John Poet Mar 2015 #19

Besides NATO fadedrose Mar 2015 #23

I think anyone that does not want to serve, need not fear the tyranny of service. Rex Mar 2015 #15

No one should be able to be forced to kill another human being. Marrah_G Mar 2015 #17

Less then 25% of the positions in the military are combat positions, In other words anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #21

NO DRAFT -- AT ALL HeiressofBickworth Mar 2015 #20

Wow, thanks for posting that story. rgbecker Mar 2015 #47

No exemptions for ANYONE in other words ones money will not save their ass anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #22

In what sense is a draft that people can just refuse a draft? Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2015 #24

Other. LWolf Mar 2015 #25

not all people are capable. no one should be forced. there will always be enough that volunteer. seabeyond Mar 2015 #28

The US has used the draft for WWI, WWII, Korea and Vietnam Lurks Often Mar 2015 #36

they did it, because of the times and the accpetance of it and many reasons. they do not do it seabeyond Mar 2015 #38

You need to look into the link more, we had a draft during peacetime Lurks Often Mar 2015 #39

there are a lot of IF's in that. i do not hold the position understanding we live in a fluid world seabeyond Mar 2015 #40

I'm against wars madokie Mar 2015 #29

Actually, I think conscientious objector status should include more than just drafts. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #31

I'm with you on that. rgbecker Mar 2015 #48

“Patriots always talk of dying for their country but never of killing for their country.” Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #32

As defined by Muhammad Ali's H2O Man Mar 2015 #41

I advocate a universal conscientous objector status, everyone should object. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #42

We need Combat Medics One_Life_To_Give Mar 2015 #44

My father-in-law was a medic. He told the Navy flat out he'd never shoot anyone. hunter Mar 2015 #49

Choice 1 is pretty much the legal definition. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #51

There should be no draft period, unless those people who are drafted will be the ones valerief Mar 2015 #53

I don't see an option for they just plain flat out don't want to be in the current military. Jamastiene Mar 2015 #56