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Ken Burch

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114. You're saying that women have no right to be angry about this.

Fri Feb 6, 2015, 10:46 AM

Feb 2015

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A non-angry article on child rape would be too bland and meaningless to say anything that mattered.

Would you be ok with people complaining about LGBTQ rage over homophobia?

Or Jewish rage about antisemitism?

Child rape is just as evil as both of those things.

And men, as a group, really can't ever be all that victimized. As a gender, we still pretty much freaking rule the world and have more privileges than anyone else. We start the wars-we order the mass layoffs-we carry out the mass exterminations. Men.
So no, as a gender, it's not ever going to be possible that we'll be persecuted.

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PSA: No, Men, You Cannot Rape A Child Even If She Is Hot And Slutty And Only Says No Twice [View all] niyad Feb 2015 OP

Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #1

right on schedule niyad Feb 2015 #2

Yeah and I stand by it, the title is stupid. Kurska Feb 2015 #3

take it up with the author. niyad Feb 2015 #4

You posted it, buddy. Kurska Feb 2015 #7

take it up with the author. niyad Feb 2015 #8

If I walked into you house and dumped a pail of dog's waste in your living room Kurska Feb 2015 #11

Excellent response! NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #21

Thanks! Kurska Feb 2015 #25

As much as I understand what you are saying marym625 Feb 2015 #44

Rape is incredibly important topic and so is consent. Kurska Feb 2015 #46

As I said, I understand your complaint marym625 Feb 2015 #51

Well, of course it's important. But it's MORE important to make sure headlines are worded correctly kcr Feb 2015 #101

LOL. whathehell Feb 2015 #129

Haha! marym625 Feb 2015 #176

You're saying that women have no right to be angry about this. Ken Burch Feb 2015 #114

thank you so much!! niyad Feb 2015 #126

+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2015 #139

Bravo! marym625 Feb 2015 #177

Emotional responses rarely generate much positivity mythology Feb 2015 #181

targeting every man... guillaumeb Feb 2015 #141

we are not moving backwards is the point Snow Leopard Feb 2015 #171

I will wait for statistics since 2010 marym625 Feb 2015 #172

gone down 30% Snow Leopard Feb 2015 #173

You didn't answer my question marym625 Feb 2015 #174

you made an assertion Snow Leopard Feb 2015 #186

Wait a minute, buddy. WhiteTara Feb 2015 #108

+1 marym625 Feb 2015 #175

There's no way you can seriously argue that men are collectively victimized by this title. Ken Burch Feb 2015 #112

The cynical part of me, liberalhistorian Feb 2015 #136

Sounds about right. Ken Burch Feb 2015 #138

You consider an advisory on how liberalhistorian Feb 2015 #135

yeah Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #73

Aren't like, literally, 99%+ of convicted rapists men? phleshdef Feb 2015 #37

Did they ever teach you in school Kurska Feb 2015 #55

Why not just respond "I stand four square against rape and rape apologists"? CTyankee Feb 2015 #105

I may be male, but AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #38

Pretty much A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2015 #76

Bravo! sheshe2 Feb 2015 #81

Exactly Dorian Gray Feb 2015 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author Ramses Feb 2015 #53

The title wasn't saying "every man alive" is a rapist. Ken Burch Feb 2015 #111

As a man, this appears addressed to me. Should I be thanking you? flvegan Feb 2015 #5

you took offense, and blasted me for someone else's words. please notice the attribution at the end niyad Feb 2015 #6

"I'm not responsible for it!" Kurska Feb 2015 #9

You posted it. flvegan Feb 2015 #10

[PSA] Vegans, stop being such assholes! Bonobo Feb 2015 #12

Except I AM an asshole. Right? Sigh, Bonobo, I'm so confused. flvegan Feb 2015 #18

You cannot prove that I meant to imply that. nt Bonobo Feb 2015 #29

Apparently, the same thing over and over again. Kurska Feb 2015 #13

What matters is the truth of the article, not the tone. Ken Burch Feb 2015 #115

Even if I may not be so absolutist about that, I agree that focusing on the "tone" misses the point nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #143

In what play did these words of Shakespeare appear? WhiteTara Feb 2015 #110

exactly! niyad Feb 2015 #137

+2 nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #144

No flvegan, it is not addressed to you. sheshe2 Feb 2015 #15

Where? Kurska Feb 2015 #16

it's not calling men rapists. It's telling men to stop JUSTIFYING rape. alp227 Feb 2015 #39

Justifying, downplaying, dismissing, any of the ways in which we do harm by omission. n/t nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #145

No man other than you is taking the article as male-bashing. Ken Burch Feb 2015 #116

"the article would have been too safe and bland to matter." nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #146

As a man, I'm obviously in many eyes am an idiot based on that. Bigotry be damned. flvegan Feb 2015 #17

Single line 75% of the "men are all rapists spiel" Kurska Feb 2015 #19

Maybe you should. LeftyMom Feb 2015 #26

The OP is written in the most dismissive and insulting manner possible. Kurska Feb 2015 #31

You mean it reads like every other article on Wonkette? That's shocking. LeftyMom Feb 2015 #32

Literally what Kurska Feb 2015 #33

I'm addressing content. You're upset about Wonkette's house style. LeftyMom Feb 2015 #36

Tone is part of messaging. Kurska Feb 2015 #41

Take a look at these. Might help you understand why people get tired of hearing "Not all men." F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #45

Tone does matter, sorry it does. Kurska Feb 2015 #50

You seem quite emotional about this. boston bean Feb 2015 #90

... nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #149

"ANGER at the target audience... is going to make the message way less effective." nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #147

The article only attacked rapists. Ken Burch Feb 2015 #117

The other title is too meaningless and without dignity to matter. Ken Burch Feb 2015 #118

Read this, still doubtful. flvegan Feb 2015 #35

"Addressing the class for one idiot" is something we do all the time as a society. LeftyMom Feb 2015 #40

...and it's no way to run the room. flvegan Feb 2015 #56

You're actually missing the moral of your own parable: LeftyMom Feb 2015 #61

You should scroll back up. n/t flvegan Feb 2015 #62

So it's okay for society to remind Muslims that they shouldn't kill people over cartoons, then. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #78

Your plan will be handily defeated by an internet meme saying "Not All Muslims". nt Bonobo Feb 2015 #79

I suspect there is some complicated algorithm which can justify bemoaning the broad-brushing of one Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #80

When 1/4 of cartoonists suffer violence, yeah, we probably should. LeftyMom Feb 2015 #123

Just reading through the thread marym625 Feb 2015 #178

Bravo! smirkymonkey Feb 2015 #140

Lol! Sheldon Cooper Feb 2015 #107

As a woman, I have to work with the personal experiences that I've had chervilant Feb 2015 #179

And this even applies if your name happens to be Roman Polanski, Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #14

When Whoopi Goldberg said that, I refused to be a fan of hers Jamastiene Feb 2015 #58

Absolutely! Xyzse Feb 2015 #127

Thanks niyad. sheshe2 Feb 2015 #20

That is what is never really addressed. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #60

OK. Thanks for the tip tkmorris Feb 2015 #22

As I'm sure you know, most men are completely unaware of this. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #23

PSA stands for "Public Service Announcement" Bonobo Feb 2015 #24

That doesn't mean it is an accusation against all men. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #42

Uh... Whatnow? quakerboy Feb 2015 #67

Well, then. I'm sure going to start having a fit about those PSAs about littering. I don't litter! kcr Feb 2015 #102

+100 nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #152

I love Wonkette. nt SunSeeker Feb 2015 #27

Does DU need this PSA? Do we have members LittleBlue Feb 2015 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Feb 2015 #34

Sometimes people take information they find here, and disseminate it elsewhere, because it is of AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #43

Yeah, they'll tell their child raping friends to stop raping LittleBlue Feb 2015 #48

There is a real problem in this country with a large percentage of the population not understanding AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #49

You don't think that LittleBlue Feb 2015 #52

You assume negative intentions. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #54

thank you. I thought I had this poster saved, and could not find it!! niyad Feb 2015 #128

There have been numerous threads here that Jamastiene Feb 2015 #63

Except, the child is saying "no" twice in the OP LittleBlue Feb 2015 #64

What is a child? Go Vols Feb 2015 #30

There is a discussion to be had, certainly. But probably not on this particular thread. nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #153

PSA: No, women, you cannot drown your children in the bathtub. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #47

Winner! Egnever Feb 2015 #57

Ugh, I can't wait for some stupid person to come here and go. Kurska Feb 2015 #59

I agree, women should not drown their children in a bathtub. boston bean Feb 2015 #88

It's not derailment. Everyone knows, from the author down, how people are going to take the wording Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #91

You are right warren, the way the english language is spoken boston bean Feb 2015 #92

Im suggesting that if you have a problem with "PSA: No, Muslims, you can't hijack airplanes" Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #94

I don't need to ask myself anything Warren. You are the one using that boston bean Feb 2015 #96

Yeah, right. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #97

I got your point... yes I did. boston bean Feb 2015 #98

I got his point, as well October Feb 2015 #109

If 1 in 4 Americans were the victims of Muslim attacks, I think that message would be totally legit. nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #154

The intent of the headline of the article is to make ALL men guilty of child molestation Yavin4 Feb 2015 #65

Right on cue, they arrive. Starry Messenger Feb 2015 #66

Yep. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #69

Yeah, that's pretty stupid too. The hundreds-of-posts-long threads on that subject are quite nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #155

Has anyone informed Kalli Joy Gray that women are running around raping kids, too? Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #68

wow another derailment. boston bean Feb 2015 #89

Actually the op is specifically about adults exploiting children Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #93

Except that statistics warren will tell you that hella lot more men rape boston bean Feb 2015 #95

Pamela Smart was a nasty villian. RiffRandell Feb 2015 #185

*sigh* ismnotwasm Feb 2015 #70

There is a lot of that going around here ism sheshe2 Feb 2015 #82

Jeez - you could win blackout bingo with that card on DU sometimes. cyberswede Feb 2015 #103

What is the actual purpose of these sorts of PSAs and blog posts? cemaphonic Feb 2015 #71

Women are offended by males raping females and children. boston bean Feb 2015 #100

+1, I agree. Marr Feb 2015 #150

PSA: No, Muslims, you can't murder a newspaper office full of cartoonists even if they make you mad. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #72

No Jews, you can't steal my money! nt Bonobo Feb 2015 #74

That is a pernicious lie. Jews are the only people on Earth who NEVER steal money. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #75

He "made off" with all their money! nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #164

I give you credit - nice flamebait. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #77

The level of whining and trolling on this thread is nauseating BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #83

it's ALWAYS about them Skittles Feb 2015 #84

blech BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #87

+100000000! (and I say that AS a man). Ken Burch Feb 2015 #120

and sometimes that derailment is quite effective. but, thankfully, not always. niyad Feb 2015 #184

Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Feb 2015 #148

Thank you for articulating the problem so perfectly. nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #156

Perhaps only a gun nut thread can reach this level of unbelievable trollery BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #158

I'm almost getting concerned for their health. betsuni Feb 2015 #160

It's usually an internet phenomenon BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #163

The crap would be funny if it weren't so predictable and moronic. All you can do is hope Number23 Feb 2015 #167

We can only hope BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #168

Excellent content! JustAnotherGen Feb 2015 #85

If the title had further stated Rappers vs "All you rapers" laserhaas Feb 2015 #99

Uh..."RAPPERS vs 'All You Rapers'"? Ken Burch Feb 2015 #119

Oy. Here we go again. Iggo Feb 2015 #104

Best response on this thread. MattSh Feb 2015 #106

Like your sig line. laserhaas Feb 2015 #122

More BS for the man haters club. ileus Feb 2015 #113

Awww...the title of the article is not very nice..sniff. Poor fucking men.nt LexVegas Feb 2015 #121

can almost guarantee that the ones who are most upset never even bothered to read the article. niyad Feb 2015 #125

It appears that they wanted to make sure that no one else did, either. n/t. Ken Burch Feb 2015 #133

indeed niyad Feb 2015 #134

. . . niyad Feb 2015 #124

There is a massive quantity of stupid in this thread. jeff47 Feb 2015 #130

thank you for noticing, and kicking! niyad Feb 2015 #131

They are a poor few A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2015 #132

Kick! sheshe2 Feb 2015 #142

K&R! smirkymonkey Feb 2015 #151

Not all men guy to the rescue! chrisa Feb 2015 #157

That made me snort out loud. betsuni Feb 2015 #161

Hilarious, and so true... nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #165

If the shoe doesn't fit, you don't have to put it on. raging moderate Feb 2015 #159

That goes without saying, but I think the subject line should be ecstatic Feb 2015 #162

If you place a few allegedly mean words on the same level as a major worldwide crisis - in this case nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #166

you mean the same way they go out of their way to avoid offending US??? niyad Feb 2015 #169

. . . niyad Feb 2015 #170

One in four women in the US Aerows Feb 2015 #180

thank you. most excellently put. would you consider making this its own OP? niyad Feb 2015 #183

. . . niyad Feb 2015 #182