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pampango

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9. People protesting the reversal of a major foreign/economic policy. That must be a CIA plot.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 09:12 AM
Dec 2014

Yanukovych had campaigned for president in 2010 on a platform of integration with Europe. Throughout 2013 his government steps to achieve that goal by November 29 when the Association Agreement with the EU was to be signed at a conference in Lithuania. As the date approached Yanukovych started to back pedal (although he also issued statements of a continued commitment to integration with Europe) under pressure from Russia.

To coordinate preparation of Ukraine for European integration, the Government of Ukraine adopted a Plan on Priority Measures for European Integration of Ukraine for 2013. Successful implementation of the plan was assumed to be one of the conditions necessary for signing of the Association Agreement, planned for 29 November 2013 during the Eastern Partnership Summit in Vilnius.

In March 2013, Stefan Fuele, the EU's Commissioner for Enlargement, informed the European Parliament that while Ukrainian authorities had given their "unequivocal commitment" to address the issues raised by the EU, several "disturbing" recent incidents, including the annulment of Tymoshenko's lawyer Serhiy Vlasenko's mandate in the Verkhovna Rada (Ukraine's parliament), could delay the signing of the agreements. However, the next day the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs expressed its optimism that they would still be signed in November.

On 7 April 2013 a decree by President Yanukovych freed Lutsenko from prison and exempted him, and his fellow Minister in the second Tymoshenko Government Heorhiy Filipchuk, from further punishment.

On 3 September 2013, at the opening session of the Verkhovna Rada after the summer recess, President Yanukovych urged his parliament to adopt laws so that Ukraine would meet the EU criteria and be able to sign the Association Agreement in November 2013.

On 18 September the Ukrainian cabinet unanimously approved the draft association agreement.

On 25 September 2013 Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada Volodymyr Rybak stated that he was sure that his parliament would pass all the laws needed to fit the EU criteria for the Association Agreement since, except for the Communist Party of Ukraine, "the Verkhovna Rada has united around these bills". ... the EU's Commissioner for Enlargement, Stefan Fuele, stated he expected that the Verkhovna Rada would the next day consider and adopt the remaining bills necessary for the signing of the association agreement, planned for 29 November 2013.

The European Parliament's monitoring mission in Ukraine stated (also on 21 November 2013) that there was still a possibility to sign the EU-Ukraine Association Agreement. The same day Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych stated "an alternative for reforms in Ukraine and an alternative for European integration do not exist...We are walking along this path and are not changing direction".

In the following days, Euromaidan, the biggest protests since the Orange Revolution, were being held in Kiev by opposition parties. On 26 November 2013 the Ukrainian Government admitted that Russia had asked it to delay signing the EU association agreement and that it "wanted better terms for the EU deal". "As soon as we reach a level that is comfortable for us, when it meets our interests, when we agree on normal terms, then we will be talking about signing," President Yanukovych stated in a televised interview. The same day Russian President Vladimir Putin called for an end to the criticism of the Ukrainian decision to delay the association agreement, and that the EU deal was bad for Russia's security interests. Putin was responding to statements by the President of the European Council, Herman Van Rompuy, and the President of the European Commission, José Manuel Barroso, that had stated they "strongly disapproved" of Russia's actions. On 26 November 2013 Prime Minister Azarov stated during a government meeting "I affirm with full authority that the negotiating process over the Association Agreement is continuing, and the work on moving our country closer to European standards is not stopping for a single day". President Yanukovych still attended the 28–29 November EU summit in Vilnius but the Association Agreement was not signed. During this summit the European Union and Ukraine initialed an Air Services Agreement. Also during the summit, President Yanukovych stated that Ukraine still wanted to sign the Association Agreement but that it needed substantial financial aid to compensate it for the threatened response from Russia, and he proposed starting three-way talks between Russia, Ukraine, and the EU.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93European_Union_Association_Agreement

People caring about a reversal of a major policy the government itself had spend months and years pursuing, is not evidence that the resulting protests must be the work of "outside agitators". (That's the term used against civil rights protesters in the US back in the day.)
RT and Oliver Stone - a match made in heaven. Nt hack89 Dec 2014 #1
Maybe you'd like to suggest something else? n/t MattSh Dec 2014 #65
If you can't believe everything to come out of Hollywood, what can you believe? Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #2
Well, it's not as if there's well-documented precedent or anything... Scootaloo Dec 2014 #4
And Oliver Stone has almost as long a history of being a tool. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #8
If "being a tool" is grounds for dismissal, we ought to just roll up DU and go home Scootaloo Dec 2014 #17
I nowhere implied the CIA had nothing to be held to account for. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #25
You kinda did, actually... Scootaloo Dec 2014 #69
And Putin has a history of manipulating nations against the will of their people, even violently so? MattSh Dec 2014 #66
you just won't quit, will you? hobbit709 Dec 2014 #3
If what I'm posting bothers you and perhaps even makes you think . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #5
My goal has been achieved too. hobbit709 Dec 2014 #7
Good for you . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #12
If someone ran an anti-Obama story from FR, they'd likely get tombstoned... brooklynite Dec 2014 #6
Are President Obama and the CIA one and the same now? another_liberal Dec 2014 #11
Last time I checked, the CIA was an Executive Branch agency... brooklynite Dec 2014 #16
Last I checked, the CIA was piping food up prisoner's asses and getting called "patriots" for it Scootaloo Dec 2014 #18
Last time I checked, those actions occurred during the Bush Administration... brooklynite Dec 2014 #23
excellent question nt grasswire Dec 2014 #56
And the crime goes unpunished, even commended, by President obama Scootaloo Dec 2014 #70
Well, it's better than most USA media... MattSh Dec 2014 #67
People protesting the reversal of a major foreign/economic policy. That must be a CIA plot. pampango Dec 2014 #9
It was what it was . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #10
"... this underhanded intervention in the internal affairs of another sovereign country." pampango Dec 2014 #14
Thank you Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #27
You clearly buy into that scenario . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #61
The CIA would never do such a thing! nationalize the fed Dec 2014 #13
Imagine a world without the CIA newfie11 Dec 2014 #15
We'd probably have world peace if the CIA and the Pentagon didn't exist. Initech Dec 2014 #64
Yep newfie11 Dec 2014 #68
Oliver Stone? Who are you kidding? Archae Dec 2014 #19
He says Hitler and Stalin are just misunderstood and the Jews are preventing an "honest discussion" Major Nikon Dec 2014 #26
Got a link for that? Octafish Dec 2014 #29
... NuclearDem Dec 2014 #32
It doesn't really say what Major Nikon said, though, does it? Octafish Dec 2014 #35
Yes it does, and you know it. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #37
No. I heard Oliver Stone address these questions in person. Octafish Dec 2014 #40
When someone starts ranting about "Jewish domination of the media?" Sure. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2014 #44
Like Chomsky? Octafish Dec 2014 #46
No, I don't. To his credit, he apologized for those remarks, very sincerely. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #47
Here's one of many Major Nikon Dec 2014 #33
Where does it say what you wrote? Octafish Dec 2014 #34
... Major Nikon Dec 2014 #36
It reminds me of the uproar over Hannah Arendt's observation about Hitler's henchmen. Octafish Dec 2014 #41
But it's okay this time because it fits a pre-selected narrative, you see. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2014 #45
... SidDithers Dec 2014 #20
+1 Tarheel_Dem Dec 2014 #48
Let me answer in emoticons edhopper Dec 2014 #21
And yet a_l edhopper Dec 2014 #22
How much do you imagine I'm getting paid to post here? another_liberal Dec 2014 #58
Good answer edhopper Dec 2014 #59
Who said I ignore anyone . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #60
I was not fooled malaise Dec 2014 #24
No, you never were . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #62
CIA -- Overthrowing democratically elected governments since 1947 nichomachus Dec 2014 #28
But it's not what Truman wanted. Octafish Dec 2014 #30
Oh Yeah. The Dulles Brothers flim-flammed Harry. nichomachus Dec 2014 #31
Stephen Kinzer has written a boffo bio on the brothers Dulles. Octafish Dec 2014 #38
Read it. It was like reading Russ Bakers book on the Bushes nichomachus Dec 2014 #49
That is the exact feeling. Octafish Dec 2014 #55
I love Stone's work as a filmmaker... NuclearDem Dec 2014 #39
Conspiracy nuts love Putin? I'm SHOCKED!!! Odin2005 Dec 2014 #42
Mere foreigners can never have any agency of their own. It's all the US. Oy. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2014 #43
And I'll bet these guys agree with Oliver Stone. You know..."birds of a feather" & all..... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2014 #50
Is that Steven Segal with Putin? zappaman Dec 2014 #52
It is indeed. He really hearts Putin, and I'm learning that Stone likes him a lot too. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2014 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #51
Oliver Stone: "Obama, a wolf in sheep's clothing". Tarheel_Dem Dec 2014 #53
kick. Thanks for posting. +1 eom Purveyor Dec 2014 #57
Well, Oliver Stone, then that settles that. tammywammy Dec 2014 #63
Locking - please post in Creative Speculation Chemisse Dec 2014 #71
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