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markpkessinger

(8,401 posts) Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:26 PM Dec 2014

"We tortured some folks" is right up there with . . . [View all]

. . . the infamous, "Mistakes were made," as a rhetorical distancing device.

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"We tortured some folks" is right up there with . . . [View all] markpkessinger Dec 2014 OP

or "who could have imagined...." nt grasswire Dec 2014 #1

Indeed. hifiguy Dec 2014 #2

You said what I felt Mira Dec 2014 #4

Yeah I know sharp_stick Dec 2014 #5

A 'stupid phrase?' markpkessinger Dec 2014 #9

He chooses his words very carefully -- he is a lawyer. nichomachus Dec 2014 #30

And that.... daleanime Dec 2014 #33

Exactly. This wasn't misspeaking. nichomachus Dec 2014 #35

Here's the real question you should be asking. 'How can ANYONE sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #44

yeah, he knew heaven05 Dec 2014 #48

x2 The Great Pretender. RiverLover Dec 2014 #14

It's come to that. hifiguy Dec 2014 #18

I've been saying for several years now . . . markpkessinger Dec 2014 #59

Well it would have been sharp_stick Dec 2014 #3

How about . . . . markpkessinger Dec 2014 #6

exactly!! wavesofeuphoria Dec 2014 #7

You hit the bull's eye, sir. hifiguy Dec 2014 #8

Bingo deutsey Dec 2014 #10

Thank you for this comment and the OP. (nt) enough Dec 2014 #12

There was already an investigation sharp_stick Dec 2014 #13

The decision not to prosecute . . . markpkessinger Dec 2014 #16

You're probably right sharp_stick Dec 2014 #19

..."right -after- he was elected." So much we learned right after, but not before. nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #20

Just as we eventually learned that he told the banksters hifiguy Dec 2014 #29

"The Long Con is out in the open now"--undeniably true!! RiverLover Dec 2014 #32

I realized that we, as an electorate, had been had hifiguy Dec 2014 #34

This was my exact same experience as well. nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #60

Rec! RiverLover Dec 2014 #17

Thread win. WilliamPitt Dec 2014 #21

And that's it said well Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #22

Folks with a limited capacity for morality as well as empathy Dragonfli Dec 2014 #23

Bravo! Hear, hear! - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #24

Exactly! Owl Dec 2014 #26

Thank you. woo me with science Dec 2014 #27

Yeah, but since we're still torturing people . . . . nichomachus Dec 2014 #31

But when you are playing your part in a cover-up, you have to be careful what you say. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2014 #39

Indeed Oilwellian Dec 2014 #40

durec PowerToThePeople Dec 2014 #43

The Obama administration has made it no secret he is not that fond of liberals. I have to wonder liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #51

K&R WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2014 #65

Unfortunate turns of phrase are jumped on by malicious minded cons and trolls...et tu, "liberals"? Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #38

I could dismiss it as an "unfortunate turn of phrase" IF .... markpkessinger Dec 2014 #50

What "lecture" was that? By calling whatever speech that was a lecture, are you not being the judgmental Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #53

Call it a lecture, call it an admonishment, call it whatever you will ... markpkessinger Dec 2014 #55

It was entirely deliberate. GeorgeGist Dec 2014 #66

Leaders don't make stupid comments. They make comments calculated sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #45

I know, right? iscooterliberally Dec 2014 #11

"Not prosecuting the torturers undermines the rule of law." Dragonfli Dec 2014 #25

I agree that it's not just agencies and see your point. iscooterliberally Dec 2014 #68

I thought you might enjoy that post Dragonfli Dec 2014 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #15

It was an "unpleasant experience" and "ugly little episode." joshcryer Dec 2014 #28

I thought you were going to say, "Heck of a job, Brownie!" nt justiceischeap Dec 2014 #36

me too. nt BootinUp Dec 2014 #42

Hitler had Issues Derek V Dec 2014 #37

No, no, no. The President using the words "we tortured..." is not anywhere BootinUp Dec 2014 #41

It's not a fair comparison at all rep the dems Dec 2014 #46

The rhetorical distancing in this instance . . . markpkessinger Dec 2014 #54

You can argue that the "folksiness" is in bad taste rep the dems Dec 2014 #57

Not in my mind it isn't.. not even fucking close.. but, whatever keeps the rabid Cha Dec 2014 #56

It isn't just about the word "folks" . . . markpkessinger Dec 2014 #70

I didn't like the "we" implicating we are all responsible. Many Cleita Dec 2014 #47

America dragged into a moral sewer. woo me with science Dec 2014 #49

"out of the loop"...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #52

I cringed when he said that. Blue_In_AK Dec 2014 #58

At least Obama didn't use the passive voice to obscure who was doing the torture. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #61

He should have been far more precise imo. I took 11 years to get to that moment. Rex Dec 2014 #62

Some folks. BeanMusical Dec 2014 #63

We sodomized some folks until they died. JEB Dec 2014 #64

K and R bigwillq Dec 2014 #67

A rare instance where this President was tone-deaf. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #69