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Marrah_G

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20. I am a new englander through and through

Reply to Chico Man (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 3, 2014, 09:22 PM

Nov 2014

I love it here and could never live anywhere else. With that said, wind turbines are far better for the environment then fossil fuels and nuclear. I don't find them all that unsightly.

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Onshore Wind electricity is cheaper than natural gas, nuclear and coal power. [View all] grahamhgreen Nov 2014 OP

All seashores have heavy bird populations. I'm not real alarmist about bird danger at inland wind NBachers Nov 2014 #1

Far more animals are killed by fossil fuel extraction than will ever be killed by windmills. Just grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #3

Note that Europe has 421 million fewer birds than 30 years ago, grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #9

"Not a Fan" Chico Man Nov 2014 #2

You would have to agree its a better solution than coal, and "Mt Top Removal"! grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #4

Yes Chico Man Nov 2014 #14

Having lived LWolf Nov 2014 #5

And here's what they do to get coal (talk about unsightly): grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #6

Yep. LWolf Nov 2014 #30

Can we at least preserve some natural untouched spots? Chico Man Nov 2014 #12

Yes. LWolf Nov 2014 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author Chico Man Nov 2014 #13

California has some beautiful mountain ridges, too KamaAina Nov 2014 #15

No trees to cut down, like in VT and NH. Chico Man Nov 2014 #16

I am a new englander through and through Marrah_G Nov 2014 #20

On a previously untouched ridge? Chico Man Nov 2014 #22

I think that when I see them, I see freedom from fossil fuels Marrah_G Nov 2014 #23

Not really. Nobody ever factors in the cost of agile backup power or energy storage. hunter Nov 2014 #7

Actually, hydro backup has been proven to be a viable alternative to your suggestions: grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #8

Most hydro sucks. hunter Nov 2014 #10

It's amazing to me that we spent $500 each last year subsidizing fossil fuels an only $7 grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #11

Yeah, that would definitely be a better way to go. Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #27

yep... hunter Nov 2014 #29

I like wind, but I LOVE solar. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #17

Solar panels over parking lots for electric vehicles is a good idea. hunter Nov 2014 #18

There's a profound forcing function taking place with electronic power systems. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #19

I think that's a fantastic option, providing power for vehicles while parked. grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #21

Thinner than homeopathic starved-pidgeon soup. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #24

these prices are just made up quadrature Nov 2014 #25

Of course it is! GitRDun Nov 2014 #26

But how many people have to die when they windmine? And what about tornadoes? valerief Nov 2014 #28