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grahamhgreen

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Mon Nov 3, 2014, 04:32 AM Nov 2014

Onshore Wind electricity is cheaper than natural gas, nuclear and coal power. [View all]

A study commissioned by the EU shows that onshore wind electricity is cheaper than natural gas, nuclear and coal power. The study takes into account climate change, human health and the like for a more complete total cost of energy production. The study found that the cost per megawatt-hour is about $133 for onshore wind, $235 for offshore wind, $168 for nuclear, $207 for gas, $274 for photovoltaic and between $205 and $295 for coal. European Wind Energy Association's deputy CEO Justin Wilkes says, "Not only does the Commission's report show the alarming cost of coal but it also presents onshore wind as both cheaper and more environmentally-friendly."

EWEA said onshore and offshore wind technologies also have room for significant cost reduction. Coal on the other hand is a fully mature technology and is unlikely to reduce costs any further.

“We are heavily subsidising the dirtiest form of electricity generation while proponents use coal’s supposed affordability as a justification for its continued use,” added Wilkes. “The irony is that coal is the most expensive form of energy in the European Union. This report shows that we should use the 2030 climate and energy package as a foundation for increasing the use of wind energy in Europe to improve our competitiveness, security and environment.”Read more at Domestic Fuel.

http://domesticfuel.com/2014/10/13/offshore-wind-cheaper-than-coal-gas-nuclear/

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All seashores have heavy bird populations. I'm not real alarmist about bird danger at inland wind NBachers Nov 2014 #1
Far more animals are killed by fossil fuel extraction than will ever be killed by windmills. Just grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #3
Note that Europe has 421 million fewer birds than 30 years ago, grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #9
"Not a Fan" Chico Man Nov 2014 #2
You would have to agree its a better solution than coal, and "Mt Top Removal"! grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #4
Yes Chico Man Nov 2014 #14
Having lived LWolf Nov 2014 #5
And here's what they do to get coal (talk about unsightly): grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #6
Yep. LWolf Nov 2014 #30
Can we at least preserve some natural untouched spots? Chico Man Nov 2014 #12
Yes. LWolf Nov 2014 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Chico Man Nov 2014 #13
California has some beautiful mountain ridges, too KamaAina Nov 2014 #15
No trees to cut down, like in VT and NH. Chico Man Nov 2014 #16
I am a new englander through and through Marrah_G Nov 2014 #20
On a previously untouched ridge? Chico Man Nov 2014 #22
I think that when I see them, I see freedom from fossil fuels Marrah_G Nov 2014 #23
Not really. Nobody ever factors in the cost of agile backup power or energy storage. hunter Nov 2014 #7
Actually, hydro backup has been proven to be a viable alternative to your suggestions: grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #8
Most hydro sucks. hunter Nov 2014 #10
It's amazing to me that we spent $500 each last year subsidizing fossil fuels an only $7 grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #11
Yeah, that would definitely be a better way to go. Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #27
yep... hunter Nov 2014 #29
I like wind, but I LOVE solar. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #17
Solar panels over parking lots for electric vehicles is a good idea. hunter Nov 2014 #18
There's a profound forcing function taking place with electronic power systems. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #19
I think that's a fantastic option, providing power for vehicles while parked. grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #21
Thinner than homeopathic starved-pidgeon soup. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #24
these prices are just made up quadrature Nov 2014 #25
Of course it is! GitRDun Nov 2014 #26
But how many people have to die when they windmine? And what about tornadoes? valerief Nov 2014 #28
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