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In reply to the discussion: Re: Attacks on Snowden, Greenwald. How the fuck do people like that sleep at night? [View all]rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)168. I am not surprised that you sleep good at night believing that the powerful NSA/CIA Security
State is taking good care of you. Will to give them your complete trust. And I am not surprised at your reactions when someone tries to tell you otherwise. Some say that not knowing is bliss and I it seems you seek the bliss.
Those that shun government transparency and attack whistle-blowers do so to protect their comfortable denial bubbles.
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Re: Attacks on Snowden, Greenwald. How the fuck do people like that sleep at night? [View all]
20score
Oct 2014
OP
I am glad you brought this up, I don't have a problem sleeping at night since I am not guilty
Thinkingabout
Oct 2014
#1
As I replied the same in the other thread, & I respect your opinion without name-calling. n/t
UTUSN
Oct 2014
#82
I've been here the entire time. I do not want to live in Soviet Russia or NAZI Germany.
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#199
I'm not too fond of surveillance either, neither government nor corporate surveillance.
LawDeeDah
Oct 2014
#207
The NSA is violating our constitutional rights. Read my posts on this thread.
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#202
How on earth do you imagine that signal intelligence violates anyone's right to free association?
ConservativeDemocrat
Oct 2014
#279
"information which should only e shared with those authorized to receive the information?"
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#23
The government has no right to privacy. Citizens do. The fourth estate bears the burden of
Luminous Animal
Oct 2014
#106
If these programs only collected information that was vital to our national security,
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#206
So the givernment doesn't have a right to privacy, that being said we will publish
Thinkingabout
Oct 2014
#122
medical records as well, and if there are any criminal records, that should be made public as well.
LawDeeDah
Oct 2014
#194
My social securitty number has nothing to do with a theoretical right of prvacy of the
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#196
I was replying to post #106 who claims the government does not have a right to privacy.
Thinkingabout
Oct 2014
#197
Again. Your SS# and income tax returns are not private to protect the right to privacy of the
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#245
Again my reply was to someone who thinks everything in the "government" should be available
Thinkingabout
Oct 2014
#250
Umm... the Constitution explicitly grants Congress a right to secrecy in its procedings
Recursion
Oct 2014
#152
Okay.....what the fuck? Are you honestly...honestly.....claiming that rights
msanthrope
Oct 2014
#251
"iats proceedings." Not our proceedings. The Bill of Rights limits the government's ability
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#198
That the census information is sealed backs up my claim that we have a right to privacy.
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#186
Since Bush publically reported the phone data was being collected from providers some time back
Thinkingabout
Oct 2014
#192
The Constitution prohibits the government from invading our privacy in this way.;
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#244
Since you may want to know everything the government has, let's publish Social Security
Thinkingabout
Oct 2014
#164
I wonder how a person who is an American, known to be a stealer of classified information
treestar
Oct 2014
#114
I am not surprised that you sleep good at night believing that the powerful NSA/CIA Security
rhett o rick
Oct 2014
#168
Funny how sheshe drew a straight line between Snowden critics and Obama supporters
GoneFishin
Oct 2014
#46
There has never been a debate as to the authenticity of the stolen documents.
NanceGreggs
Oct 2014
#229
What I find interesting from those that support the Security State is the justification
rhett o rick
Oct 2014
#167
You actually equate someone stealing a million $ to whistleblowing information?
LiberalLovinLug
Oct 2014
#218
I did admit I was portraying the "gist" of what I gleaned from your reponses.
LiberalLovinLug
Oct 2014
#248
Everyone is suppose to suck up whatever version G-S comes up with.. just like they do.. OR..
Cha
Oct 2014
#128
My view is that the constitutional violations about which Snowden provided the evidence
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#265
Laura Poitras explains how Snowden contacted her and how Greenwald got involved in the
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#277
The movie changed Harvey Weinstein's mind. He no longer thinks that Snowden is a
Luminous Animal
Oct 2014
#281
Just got home from seeing the movie. It is a perfect compliment to the book.
Luminous Animal
Oct 2014
#289
+100000 Of course you are correct that the word, "authoritarian" is accurate here,
woo me with science
Oct 2014
#126
I have a some favorite posters on DU. Manny, Willy T, Duppers, Suich, Will Pit to name a few.
20score
Oct 2014
#129
That sounds dead on from what I've seen of some of the greenwald fans.. Can't debate his fuckups so
Cha
Oct 2014
#25
Do you like the fact that the government is collecting personal information from people's e-mail
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#27
i like the fact that Snowden collected data and decided tp share this with the world.
Thinkingabout
Oct 2014
#48
I answered sincerely and completely-FOR-ME. I don't need lectures-sermons-patronizing
UTUSN
Oct 2014
#93
I don't see why you're injecting yourself tangentally. I don't have reason to believe that
UTUSN
Oct 2014
#108
My quoting a pop-poster from the '70s was not about "therapy" it was about your and my
UTUSN
Oct 2014
#113
Do you think that the authors of the Fourth Amendment would sleep well at nightt if they
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#30
If it was true the NSA did not acquire the information without a warrant they just may
Thinkingabout
Oct 2014
#51
Why would you think I have not read the Fourth Amendment? I know about the warrants
Thinkingabout
Oct 2014
#135
Wow, have you been missing the news reports for about the last 15 years?
Thinkingabout
Oct 2014
#185
Good you've read the Fourth Amendment. A pity that you don't understand it.
RufusTFirefly
Oct 2014
#187
Probable cause is individual not a holistic rationale. You are making a mockery of the whole concept
TheKentuckian
Oct 2014
#208
Where did you determine what is individual and holistic rationale? Did not see that in
Thinkingabout
Oct 2014
#209
I suppose I struggle with your definition of probable cause to such an extent
TheKentuckian
Oct 2014
#212
There still is none by what I consider to be a twisted interpretation in the first place.
TheKentuckian
Oct 2014
#231
I'm sure they sleep well knowing they are protecting our constiutional rights.
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#28
I've noted that most people -- I'd like to think I'm excluded but cannot say so absolutely -- come
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#121
It doesn't bother you in the least that Bush's creation ISIS is using Snowden's leaks
baldguy
Oct 2014
#36
No worse than having worshipful posts praising Greenwald & Snowden demanding 100% agreement
baldguy
Oct 2014
#78
DU'ers throwing around the insult "authoritarians" are the most likely to insist on 100% groupthink
KittyWampus
Oct 2014
#57
You really nail it with this one sentence. : "They establish their guilt of this simply by
GoneFishin
Oct 2014
#70
You are completely correct. The wrongs that they exposed outweigh any transgressions
GoneFishin
Oct 2014
#67
I've been reading Greenward for almost a decade, and that's just not true. Completely wrong!
20score
Oct 2014
#91
Try a little harder to come up with something the neighborhood six year could old to come up with.
20score
Oct 2014
#96
No. Only happens that they didn't start screaming until the Pres got a little darker.
baldguy
Oct 2014
#102
And you're fucking wrong. Prove it. I can link to dozens of articles proving you wrong.
20score
Oct 2014
#104
2006 book: How Would a Patriot Act? Defending American Values from a President Run Amok
20score
Oct 2014
#107
Pat Tillman joined the army to fight Bush's wars. He criticized it from the inside.
Luminous Animal
Oct 2014
#110
oh sure, he defended Bush in the beginnng - just like the entire Democratic Party leadership
Douglas Carpenter
Oct 2014
#146
Can't change the fact that both Greenwald & Snowden supported Bush and his wars.
baldguy
Oct 2014
#238
Just like John Kerry and Hillary Clinton -except he admitted he was wrong -They have not to this day
Douglas Carpenter
Oct 2014
#271
If you're advocating against the Democratic Party & the sitting Democratic President
baldguy
Oct 2014
#274
I didn't realize that supporting the Democratic Party required brain-dead robotic thinking
Douglas Carpenter
Oct 2014
#275
you're the one promoting right-wing talking points- you just don't have a clue how us liberals think
Douglas Carpenter
Oct 2014
#288
I'm supporting the sitting President of the United States too - that doesn't mean I have to endorse
Douglas Carpenter
Oct 2014
#295
that's what you personality cultist don't understand. Loyalty to our country and our democratic way
Douglas Carpenter
Oct 2014
#300
"... the personality cultist make **US** look just as stupid and ignorant and any of the wingnuts."
baldguy
Oct 2014
#301
I'm personally a bad sleeper -- Lots of restless, mentally anguished nights
Blue_Tires
Oct 2014
#109
when people claim they have nothing to lose, what they really mean is they have nothing
whereisjustice
Oct 2014
#155
I was tempted to start a "SnowWald skeptics post your sleeping strategies here" thread
BeyondGeography
Oct 2014
#203
And the same folks that are always super quiet when there is (relative) unity here
Number23
Oct 2014
#230
You got it. Sadly they must not be completely convinced because they have to
rhett o rick
Oct 2014
#181
Thanks Sabrina! Well said! Complete cognitive dissonance on their part. And they anger
20score
Oct 2014
#217
They are enablers, and at this point, I have nothing but contempt for anyone who
sabrina 1
Oct 2014
#219
Meanwhile, back at the farm, the Hardy Boys have discovered the murderer's bandana!!!
Major Hogwash
Oct 2014
#291
In case you're still wondering, I've been sleeping much better the past few nights
Blue_Tires
Oct 2014
#304
Glenn Greenwald just reprinted in full a mostly-positive review of his book on the Intercept
Blue_Tires
Nov 2014
#332