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uponit7771

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204. This is false, when a FOIA request is filed for said report the report is given PERIOD ... it's agai

Fri Oct 24, 2014, 10:28 AM

Oct 2014

... against the law to hold back from a federal investigation or a FOIA request said report.

This has been posted on DU a couple of times of how the FPD is skirtin FOIA and the FEDs request for the report that Wilson was supposed to have filled out.

Give a blank sheet violates the FOIA in spirit if not law

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WAIT! So FDP Officer Wilson, whos ILLEGALLY refusing to make a report for fear of being incriminated [View all] uponit7771 Oct 2014 OP

Wilson who dlwickham Oct 2014 #1

Wilson in Ferguson, I have to assume. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #3

Sure it's not this guy? Generic Other Oct 2014 #72

No, everyone knows Wilson... jberryhill Oct 2014 #130

Already a locked thread in LBN on this. Kingofalldems Oct 2014 #2

You mean the "not real people" disruptors? nt valerief Oct 2014 #4

Wilson has a 5th amendment right to remain silent Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #5

Why would he, he did even MOST of what he supposed to do right?! HELL NAW! uponit7771 Oct 2014 #6

And that applies to work reports? daleanime Oct 2014 #7

Yep. jeff47 Oct 2014 #54

Well OK then he should be fired by that Government Police agency for not fulfilling his paid duties gordianot Oct 2014 #88

Can't. That would be forcing him to incriminate himself. jeff47 Oct 2014 #242

As someone who works for the federal government, he may/may not have such a right. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #199

Wilson was required to file a report of some type starroute Oct 2014 #115

No Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #128

But no one else was on the scene starroute Oct 2014 #151

That is not what is claimed Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #155

What I find is the ACLU saying the PD was breaking the law starroute Oct 2014 #168

Ok, so we have the department possibly breaking the law Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #188

He only has to fill out the report if he wants to remain employed. Calista241 Oct 2014 #265

You're missing the OP's point. Sure, Wilson has a right to remain silent, as does anyone KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #9

If giving facts is deflection then I apologize. Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #10

It certainly can be. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #12

Thank you for stating this so consisely and eloquently. KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #24

Perfectly and succinctly stated. Bravo! riqster Oct 2014 #104

Is he doing so? He doesn't seem to be. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #11

It's not remaining silent Quayblue Oct 2014 #37

I agree. They're gonna let the cop walk. lob1 Oct 2014 #89

Do you think there will be a report on what Wilson had in his system? He WAS the shooter sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #13

I suspect Wilson was hopped up on coke, meth or speed. See Joe McGinniss' KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #27

I always suspected roid rage leftynyc Oct 2014 #56

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2014 #61

Is your suspicion backed up by any facts? NaturalHigh Oct 2014 #162

So was Wilson tested after this shooting? If so, what were the results? If not, why not? As for KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #171

Ah sorry about that. Yes, it was an amphetamine, a diet pill that I can't recall. NaturalHigh Oct 2014 #172

At the risk of utterly derailing this thread, but in the interest of balance, wanted to KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #174

Yes, thanks. I've read it. NaturalHigh Oct 2014 #177

Wilson had a second job, as a security officer BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #183

Well again, that should come out in a drug test. NaturalHigh Oct 2014 #185

Did he resign his job? Man from Pickens Oct 2014 #47

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2014 #52

ive never heard of an officer involved in a shooting writing the police report. Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #55

I know it is mandatory strawberries Oct 2014 #92

Here is Wilson official report riverwalker Oct 2014 #146

weird strawberries Oct 2014 #159

Um ... you do realize that's not Wilson's report, right? Travelman Oct 2014 #169

+1, the FPD tried to pawn it off to the SLPD but the SLPD didn't have anything to go on so... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #194

That's absurd. Travelman Oct 2014 #213

You are just making stuff up now Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #156

Come on, this is America Man from Pickens Oct 2014 #170

Several things Calista241 Oct 2014 #266

So... by that logic... Oktober Oct 2014 #158

Yup! He needs to be charged with embezzlement. ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #176

Then he needs to be fired for not doing his job. geek tragedy Oct 2014 #51

Wilson shot a man dead onecaliberal Oct 2014 #103

Silent to the media, maybe . . . brush Oct 2014 #179

^^^^^That onecaliberal Oct 2014 #214

Wait, was he charged with anything? I thought 5th amendment rights were only Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #200

no. you almoat always have a 5th amendment right Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #209

He was apparently advised not to by his union lawyer hack89 Oct 2014 #8

Was he checked for drugs or alcohol? I would think that would be standard procedure after sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #16

Good question - you would hope so. nt hack89 Oct 2014 #17

It's illegal... the FOIA request are being ignored at the LEAST his union boss doesn't control that uponit7771 Oct 2014 #25

Is it a state law you are referring to? hack89 Oct 2014 #31

... no, FOIA laws... the FPD is trying to skirt them using the 5th only told to Wilson by his uponit7771 Oct 2014 #35

How does filing a statement 10 days late violate the FOI laws? hack89 Oct 2014 #43

I think the report was blank. bravenak Oct 2014 #46

But what law was broken? hack89 Oct 2014 #48

FOIA and impeding an investigation, he doesn't get 5th because his STATED purpose on the job uponit7771 Oct 2014 #50

The FOIA only applies to the Federal government - not the Ferguson PD hack89 Oct 2014 #57

Still doesn't supercede his 5th amendment rights. jeff47 Oct 2014 #58

... there COULD be no murder because Wilson followed all the rules of his job... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #63

If he did what we all think he did, then it's a murder. jeff47 Oct 2014 #66

Isn't pleading the 5th in THIS situation an already forced error? I followed the rules = I go uponit7771 Oct 2014 #85

Common sense-wise, yes. jeff47 Oct 2014 #87

If cops just start filing blank reports after killing people,is that not impeding the investigation? bravenak Oct 2014 #53

Could be. hack89 Oct 2014 #60

If he is conspiring with the department like it seems. bravenak Oct 2014 #65

I think his supporters would leak regardless of what he does hack89 Oct 2014 #70

It is frustrating to hear dribs and drabs, but not get anything real. bravenak Oct 2014 #75

It is a dangerous situation. hack89 Oct 2014 #76

That's what it is. bravenak Oct 2014 #77

Nah...That's OJs excuse... didn't work for him uponit7771 Oct 2014 #83

5th amendment means you're allowed to impede it. jeff47 Oct 2014 #62

He is not allowed to be conspiring with others to assist him. bravenak Oct 2014 #68

His story gets leaked, not his report. jeff47 Oct 2014 #69

... this is NOT a case of a normal citizen taken some normal actions and then crap happens... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #81

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2014 #64

exactly, IE the FOIA infractions at the least... at the MOST he should be standing in the way uponit7771 Oct 2014 #49

The FOIA only applies to Federal agencies, not state and local agencies hack89 Oct 2014 #79

Good point but because this is now a federal case FOIA applies.. (inside) uponit7771 Oct 2014 #94

And does the Federal FOIA allow access to police documents from an active investigation? hack89 Oct 2014 #101

It's a federal case NOW... anything the feds ask for can be gotten under FOIA... it's common and the uponit7771 Oct 2014 #105

So the title of your OP is wrong and Wilson is not breaking the FOIA? hack89 Oct 2014 #110

FOIA is not a criminal statute, and there are no criminal penalties for non-compliance. branford Oct 2014 #107

Missouri has their own Sunshine law which requires release csziggy Oct 2014 #125

I don't think you understand how FOIA works Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #123

Yeah well for the record, I never believed any of the people Rex Oct 2014 #14

"... the people doing it think they are clever but are very transparent." Yep. Scuba Oct 2014 #38

And there will always be people right here on DU siding with these armed cops/wanna-be cops who kill Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #211

Is that true? savalez Oct 2014 #15

I think he eventually filed a report ten days after the shooting. nt hack89 Oct 2014 #19

Report was empty... nathin...that's why the FOIA laws are going to USSC regarding this case. uponit7771 Oct 2014 #28

Excuse me. Words that we don't even KNOW come from him have more credibility than eyewitnesses. bravenak Oct 2014 #18

I suspect that there are witnesses we are not aware of hack89 Oct 2014 #21

I'm just going by the witnesses we have heard from. bravenak Oct 2014 #23

I agree - the leaks are to spin a pro-Wilson story hack89 Oct 2014 #34

Please. Integrity would be a blessing in this situation. bravenak Oct 2014 #36

I would hope all the grand jury transcripts are released hack89 Oct 2014 #41

That would be nice and useful. bravenak Oct 2014 #44

There is likely a great deal of forensic evidence and witness testimony which we know nothing about. branford Oct 2014 #71

I will stay up all night reading it if necessary when it comes out bravenak Oct 2014 #73

Same old garbage, no? They will defend these killer cops to the nth degree until one day sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #26

I asked that very same question about the officer's toxicology report yesterday. bravenak Oct 2014 #32

That would make sense, don't know how many people were LESS risk adverse jacked during a game uponit7771 Oct 2014 #40

I have seen people got straight out of character on certain substances. bravenak Oct 2014 #42

Good that others are asking. I had not seen anyone ask about the cop's state of mind. People sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #80

HELP!!! what is in the report that says Brown WASNT 20 feet or 25 feet away when the last shots randys1 Oct 2014 #39

I saw nothing that indicated he was that close. bravenak Oct 2014 #45

Do we know where the cop car was in relation to the body? randys1 Oct 2014 #129

LOL....DU has been ratfucked for quite sometime. GOPers are everywhere. Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #20

are you sure they are Republicans? hfojvt Oct 2014 #29

first I heard about him not making a report hfojvt Oct 2014 #22

... the "filed" report is empty... look for FOIA to go to USSC regarding the incident report because uponit7771 Oct 2014 #30

A police report is supposed to be written as soon as possible after the event. So if Wilson did not sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #67

the victim in this case though hfojvt Oct 2014 #97

Interesting take Savannahmann Oct 2014 #132

you think homicide is a distraction? hfojvt Oct 2014 #182

I'm truly astonished. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #190

Who said he robbed a store? Are you referring to the video that was released sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #173

What do you think this means? XemaSab Oct 2014 #180

The the thug cops want people to keep their mouths shut... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #193

You think the cops spray-painted that on the burned out QuikTrip? XemaSab Oct 2014 #238

Hard to answer that when you provide no information as to where it came from, eg. sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #256

Looters spray-painted this behind the QuikTrip XemaSab Oct 2014 #259

What does that have to do with anything? The protesters were not looters, if that is what you sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #263

I'm talking about the looters XemaSab Oct 2014 #267

I don't expect them to end with dead citizens either hfojvt Oct 2014 #184

Even if every word you say is true, and of course we don't know that, it STILL does not justify the sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #230

THE COP IS DISCREDITED!!! What about his discredit be default is NOT understood?! He's REFUSING uponit7771 Oct 2014 #191

Also, so are shooting slike this in the WHITE community, only racist wingers front the black uponit7771 Oct 2014 #192

I guess "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply to Michael Brown? gollygee Oct 2014 #243

he was shot in the back heaven05 Oct 2014 #86

IMO they sent their paid trolls here yesterday to test the waters and to see if liberals wil buy it. notadmblnd Oct 2014 #33

Racist is racist, "progressive" or otherwise alcibiades_mystery Oct 2014 #59

Thank you. I've said for years that the percentage of racists on the left is just aout the same as Solomon Oct 2014 #175

I think the matter is completely unresolved The Traveler Oct 2014 #74

I do not post often on the site donnasgirl Oct 2014 #78

Yellow Journalism "gun gone off" HOW!?!??! Just .. pulled it's own trigger?!?! uponit7771 Oct 2014 #82

Maybe i am wrong donnasgirl Oct 2014 #84

In regards to the report which just claims the "gun went off" I don't see how Brown FORCED Wilson uponit7771 Oct 2014 #91

You get shot give up raise your hands there is a pause then still get shot. gordianot Oct 2014 #93

please stop blaming heaven05 Oct 2014 #95

EXACTLY!!! The running away and being shot at is the crime people are focusing on Brown in the uponit7771 Oct 2014 #98

Care to be specific? Otherwise, why yes, you are wrong. "The young man" was guilty KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #144

You are wrong. ncjustice80 Oct 2014 #178

Yeap, pathologist has already said one of the wounds in the arm is consistant with shot from the uponit7771 Oct 2014 #195

Muddy the waters? It seems pretty clear to me. A teenager encounters over walking sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #241

If Wilson is not indicted by a local grand jury . . . Jack Rabbit Oct 2014 #90

The federal investigation is already ongoing. branford Oct 2014 #99

I can speak of 2 white people that live in Ferguson (in-laws) which gives me some insight. gordianot Oct 2014 #102

He's a slick little shit. LanternWaste Oct 2014 #96

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2014 #108

I don't know why he hasn't been convicted and put in prison yet Bonx Oct 2014 #111

Dude, sorry to break it to you, but there are *very* few people here who even *halfway* support..... AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #100

Few would be like.. maybe 4? nah.... I see at LEAST 20 given ear to Wilsons KKK supported ass... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #106

Just Twenty? On a site with many *thousands* of active users? AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #114

ONE heaven05 Oct 2014 #127

RIGHT!! uponit7771 Oct 2014 #197

Well it's not heaven05 Oct 2014 #109

"by some progressives that I have witnessed here", I'm sorry, but that's fuckin' bullshit, amigo. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #112

you're entitled heaven05 Oct 2014 #117

Wolves in Sheep's Clothing? I can give you an example right now, if need be: AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #119

I know that heaven05 Oct 2014 #122

" when they are disregarding their own fleas". Pot, meet kettle. n/t AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #124

don't change heaven05 Oct 2014 #126

Dude, you're really trying everybody's patience. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #181

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #186

Let's not change the subject. You have a price. Let's negotiate. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #187

glee here!!!! heaven05 Oct 2014 #208

HA! This is so funny. betsuni Oct 2014 #224

. Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2014 #271

There's eye witnesses and then there are eye witnesses Android3.14 Oct 2014 #113

Discussionist brought a lot of rightwingers to DU. It has reached the point where they ... ieoeja Oct 2014 #116

ahhhh heaven05 Oct 2014 #120

Looks like you've had at least three hidden posts on DU3. Make7 Oct 2014 #136

Mods wouldn't have hidden any of those. ieoeja Oct 2014 #138

They were unreasonable at best relative to what the site started as... now that there are more winge uponit7771 Oct 2014 #198

Where is it illegal for him to not do a report? Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #118

Oh lordy, Seriously? MaggieD Oct 2014 #134

Seriously- you didn't address what I said Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #135

Really? You're an expert on all laws in all states and counties? MaggieD Oct 2014 #140

More to the point, his boss, Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson, said Wilson KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #148

Exactly - which is why incident reports are SOP.... MaggieD Oct 2014 #150

Maybe your comprehension is lacking Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #157

let me whip up some opinions about partial leaked NM_Birder Oct 2014 #202

FOIA and impeding an investigation, he doesn't get 5th because his STATED purpose on the job uponit7771 Oct 2014 #201

I see you can't cite the law Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #236

Ummm... no, please read the KOS record of this ... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #249

Well, putting in my common sense cap Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #254

Mind boggling, isn't it? n/t MaggieD Oct 2014 #121

Does anyone have a link to this "illegal refusal to make a report?" Travelman Oct 2014 #131

Finally, a voice of reason Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #139

That's not a voice of reason.... MaggieD Oct 2014 #141

So if a police officer is in a traffic accident with you Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #147

Yes, I want the LEO to get a statement on record! MaggieD Oct 2014 #152

You are confused Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #154

Then where is the statement? MaggieD Oct 2014 #165

Show me that SOP Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #189

I posted links long before you responded MaggieD Oct 2014 #270

FOIA and impeding an investigation, he doesn't get the benefit of the 5th because he... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #203

That's not a link Travelman Oct 2014 #210

I'm talking about the FOIA request for the report that is blank... so there IS a filing... Wilson uponit7771 Oct 2014 #220

Explaing it away is not a link. Travelman Oct 2014 #231

Here's the link, he's breaking FOIA and Sunshine laws from the state.... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #248

"Some lady on dailyKos" is not a link to a law Travelman Oct 2014 #251

Strawman noted, no one is saying he IS compelled just that he did so and has NOT come forth... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #252

Strawman my ass Travelman Oct 2014 #258

"it "wasn't the compulsion to file part... again,... strawman noted. Either way, he's not filing uponit7771 Oct 2014 #260

You're reduced to speaking in some bizarre code Travelman Oct 2014 #262

what year did you graduate law school? Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #217

1983... now what??!!? uponit7771 Oct 2014 #221

Now, you should very easily be able to cite the law that you're claiming exists Travelman Oct 2014 #233

To clear up a lot of bad info in this thread Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #133

Violations of civil rights is breaking the law MaggieD Oct 2014 #142

I can't answer where it is Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #143

Yeah, he's giving verbal accounts after being fully apprised of the evidence... MaggieD Oct 2014 #153

It is obvious cops think they are above the law when it comes to murder. Rex Oct 2014 #161

This is false, when a FOIA request is filed for said report the report is given PERIOD ... it's agai uponit7771 Oct 2014 #204

Even if everything I have heard from Wilson's side is true, Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #137

Wilson's prior ingestion of meth or speed would explain the subsequent shooting. Oh, wait, Wilson KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #145

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2014 #206

BINGO!!! The rest of the "leak" is irrelevant... Wilson should be charge for attempting to shoot uponit7771 Oct 2014 #205

Some people will believe anything Bettie Oct 2014 #149

He did testify in front of the Grand Jury Wella Oct 2014 #160

So what? MaggieD Oct 2014 #163

I knew the fix was in, the moment Wilson was allowed to flee the crime scene. Rex Oct 2014 #164

Yup. MaggieD Oct 2014 #166

Do you have a link for that? Wella Oct 2014 #167

A link for what? MaggieD Oct 2014 #227

Everyone has that privilege Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #223

They don't have the right to a full review of the evidence MaggieD Oct 2014 #225

What special right does wilson have? Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #232

He apparently has a special right... MaggieD Oct 2014 #235

He has not had charges brought against him Quayblue Oct 2014 #237

Unbelievable. PorridgeGun Oct 2014 #264

I have no idea? Seriously? MaggieD Oct 2014 #269

The incident report, he never filled one out.. FOIA request and the Fed investigation that is callin uponit7771 Oct 2014 #207

I'm reading this shit, too, and I'm thinking I'm on Drudge or Stormfront. Not on DU. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #196

Yeap, people are OUTRIGHT believing a guy who's saying by actions.. that he's NOT going to fill a uponit7771 Oct 2014 #215

From the autopsy reports, it is also now clear that he shot at Brown while Brown Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #219

Yeap, I could hear in those workers voices the disgust with Wilson.. W uponit7771 Oct 2014 #222

You can also hear them say "the kid did nothing wrong". Remember that? Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #240

Not just DU - but everyone uponit JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #212

WHOA!!!! Man that is BIG!! Bottom line how are they even thinking about a guy who's REFUSING uponit7771 Oct 2014 #218

It is big JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #226

The 5th is for the innocent as well as the guilty. Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #228

Check that, if Wilson SUSPECTED he did something wrong then of course he'd hide uponit7771 Oct 2014 #244

I really thank you heaven05 Oct 2014 #216

thx uponit7771 Oct 2014 #261

According to this article, there is a report...just not by Ferguson PD Oilwellian Oct 2014 #229

And this is exactly what I have been trying to explain to people here Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #239

False, the FOAI already release the SLPD report and it's empty... these guys are assholes why uponit7771 Oct 2014 #246

No, SLCPD released a redacted, not empty report Lee-Lee Oct 2014 #255

Link, I don't see ANY redacted report of Wilsons account since he's the one on the original SLPD... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #257

Yes, the report is empty... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #245

Depending on all the witnesses TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #234

The actions after Brown ran away are the reason for the protest etc... no actions after Brown uponit7771 Oct 2014 #247

And you think there is no possibility that he attacked the cop? TexasMommaWithAHat Oct 2014 #250

Not from what the witness's said, since Wilson is hiding the truth the he has NOT AN OUNCE of ... uponit7771 Oct 2014 #253

"The cop backed up," to me that's damning thing #1 BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #268