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Fred Sanders

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29. Look up "incubation period" for a dead body....sheesh.....

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Dallas Ebola infection/incubation timeline 10.19.14 (Duncan's family in 21st day!) [View all] morningfog Oct 2014 OP

Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Oct 2014 #1

Nice post and good work. PearliePoo2 Oct 2014 #2

I hope they take blood samples from all the people who are monitored Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #3

No, it means they were never infected in the first place, never had symptoms, remember? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #17

What about being asymptomatic? Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #87

Rare immunities? No. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #94

This doesn't compute with other virus. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #99

The evidence it occurred would be actual symptoms of the internal battle, Ebola is not like the virus Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #100

Too early to celebrate but that is good news. nt RiffRandell Oct 2014 #4

Definitely not time to celebrate. But clearly no cause for panic. morningfog Oct 2014 #6

No panic from me. nt RiffRandell Oct 2014 #7

I think people have differing defintions of "panic", around here. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #90

That is not panic. morningfog Oct 2014 #96

If it was airborne, we'd know it by now. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #102

Doctors already do what you are suggesting marions ghost Oct 2014 #124

During this period, we've come a long way in our preparations for MineralMan Oct 2014 #5

"Panicky" people haven't hurt anyone. But smug, over-confident people with insufficient protocols pnwmom Oct 2014 #8

Exactly. LisaL Oct 2014 #9

Yeah, but somehow they're less important . . . pnwmom Oct 2014 #10

A lot of people are monitored because Amber flew while already LisaL Oct 2014 #11

Please. Learn to read. morningfog Oct 2014 #18

I know how to read, thank you very much. LisaL Oct 2014 #22

Lol, okay. You ignore Patrick Sawyer and now Duncan morningfog Oct 2014 #31

How is it "fear mongering" to accurately state the number of people now under quarantine? nt pnwmom Oct 2014 #137

She was not, why are you now so blatantly lying? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #23

WTF are you talking about? LisaL Oct 2014 #27

What does "potentially had other symptoms" mean? Thank you. uppityperson Oct 2014 #45

Ask CDC, because that's what they say. LisaL Oct 2014 #47

Link? either she had symptom or didn't. It is possible all the info has not been released though. uppityperson Oct 2014 #51

Here. LisaL Oct 2014 #54

Thanks, i was off looking at articles too. While terms like "may" have their uses, they can also be uppityperson Oct 2014 #57

They are monitoring over a 100 people exposed to her. LisaL Oct 2014 #59

I agree, question is was her tiredness and achiness due to ebola or another reason. Difficult to say uppityperson Oct 2014 #62

But the fact is she does have Ebola so the conservative medical presumption pnwmom Oct 2014 #138

Where the fuck did you get that? morningfog Oct 2014 #15

Too many folks here, including LisaL, are determined to spread fear and she is on a big team. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #20

I know. There on some vultures hoping for mass casualty. morningfog Oct 2014 #28

Do not call the liars and fear mongers to their digital faces, get alerted and too many live in the Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #32

Who exactly is the liar here? LisaL Oct 2014 #46

Get what? LisaL Oct 2014 #30

Where did anyone say someone is less important! morningfog Oct 2014 #34

Who has said anyone is less important? uppityperson Oct 2014 #48

Which is clearly stated in the OP. morningfog Oct 2014 #19

LOL, you have been the most panicy person here. nt Logical Oct 2014 #43

A Haitian woman threw up in public, 911 call of "Liberian woman who says she has ebola" . uppityperson Oct 2014 #12

Some folks are determined to be afraid and reject facts in favor of fantasy to support the fear. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #26

OMG!!!! My son threw up today!! kdmorris Oct 2014 #71

It's the beginning of the flu season. So obviously people will be sufering from "flu-like symptoms." Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #76

Panicky idiots have caused schools to close, morningfog Oct 2014 #14

And because travel restrictions were not put on Mr. Duncan's contacts ( I guess somebody was so LisaL Oct 2014 #42

And NOT treating a level 4 pathogen with the respect it deserves may still end up taking the lives Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #95

LOL, need links to some stories about panic??? I have a lot of them! nt Logical Oct 2014 #39

They haven't? Really? MineralMan Oct 2014 #75

I agree with you. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #86

+1 nt laundry_queen Oct 2014 #130

...^ that 840high Oct 2014 #131

This message was self-deleted by its author uppityperson Oct 2014 #132

Navarro College, TX, is rejecting students from Nigeria. uppityperson Oct 2014 #134

Yes. Observation and when appropriate quarantine of those who could possibly JDPriestly Oct 2014 #24

I am very relieved to see all his post-hospitalization contacts in the clear. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #13

That's inacurate. LisaL Oct 2014 #16

But they are at the end of the typical incubation period. morningfog Oct 2014 #21

That's false. Only 10 days since he died. LisaL Oct 2014 #25

Look up "incubation period" for a dead body....sheesh..... Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #29

Bodies are highly infectious. LisaL Oct 2014 #33

The body was properly disposed of...look up incubation period for a dead body.... Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #36

Look for what incubation period means. LisaL Oct 2014 #38

Look at the average and mean incubation rates. morningfog Oct 2014 #37

You can't assume that everybody and everything will be average. LisaL Oct 2014 #40

More than average, the vast majority. morningfog Oct 2014 #41

You are posting false information. LisaL Oct 2014 #44

Because she had only a 99.5 temp, her viral load was low. morningfog Oct 2014 #50

Again, what are you qualifications? LisaL Oct 2014 #52

I'm not an idiot. morningfog Oct 2014 #53

You made a claim. So it's not good enough. LisaL Oct 2014 #55

I have no interest in trying to educate you, morningfog Oct 2014 #56

I have been trying to educate you, but it appears to be pointless. LisaL Oct 2014 #58

Holy shit! This is not debatable. It's basic stuff. morningfog Oct 2014 #60

Again, all I have is your word. LisaL Oct 2014 #66

From your link: morningfog Oct 2014 #89

Here you go. uppityperson Oct 2014 #61

That is not what I am asking. LisaL Oct 2014 #63

"Ebola virus RNA levels at the time of fever and symptom onset are typically low" uppityperson Oct 2014 #65

When was the onset of symptoms for her? LisaL Oct 2014 #68

I thought you said " I am asking for correlation between patient's fever and patient's viral load." uppityperson Oct 2014 #70

It doesn't. LisaL Oct 2014 #72

The graph was extra. The link and copied bit talked about it. uppityperson Oct 2014 #73

No, it doesn't. LisaL Oct 2014 #74

Are you looking for a study between how high a fever is and viral load or just uppityperson Oct 2014 #79

The OP poster made a claim that because her fever was low, her viral load was low. LisaL Oct 2014 #81

OK. There are several things being mixed together here. uppityperson Oct 2014 #85

You can read the actual article in the New England Journal of Medicine. LisaL Oct 2014 #101

Link? I couldn't find it. Thank you. uppityperson Oct 2014 #107

And when do those who never have a fever have a high viral load? You think they are just causually morningfog Oct 2014 #92

They think it is possible for someone to have NO sypmptoms and a high viral load. morningfog Oct 2014 #91

It would be interesting to see time, temp, viral load, other sx all graphed as to uppityperson Oct 2014 #98

She wasn't reported as spewing bodily fluids all over, Demit Oct 2014 #78

Dead bodies are said to be higly infectious. LisaL Oct 2014 #80

I don't think she was reported as flying while dead, either. Demit Oct 2014 #83

Epidemiology 101 would be behind her capacity, no more need be said. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #104

Did you take epidemiology? LisaL Oct 2014 #108

You seem to be the one who is freaking out for no reason! nt Logical Oct 2014 #122

Argumentativeness, tho, that she's expert in! Demit Oct 2014 #129

Maybe she meant "pre-hospitalization contacts". uppityperson Oct 2014 #49

GREAT POST! Logic and common sense and critical thinking. Wow, much needed on the DU! nt Logical Oct 2014 #35

several people have pointed out that your information is wrong ecstatic Oct 2014 #64

Doesn't this part talk about Vinson's and Pham's contacts? I am confused. Thanks. uppityperson Oct 2014 #67

Nothing in the OP is inaccurate. The last bit is my opinion. morningfog Oct 2014 #69

I dunno. LisaL Oct 2014 #77

LOL Egnever Oct 2014 #82

And Patrick Sawyer. The inability to engage in critical thought over fear is astounding. morningfog Oct 2014 #84

Why do you keep bringing up Patrick Sawyer? LisaL Oct 2014 #93

How many people did he infect while flying? morningfog Oct 2014 #97

You are misinformed. LisaL Oct 2014 #105

He infected no one while flying, this is a deflection from that fact. The guy could have been Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #110

Your insults are getting absurd. LisaL Oct 2014 #118

Did you know the ebola crisis in Nigeria is over, they contained it! You have no such faith in Obama Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #119

And he also infected another ECOWAS diplomat who didn't die (but fled quarantine and infected LisaL Oct 2014 #115

The CDC, who got their information from Vinson, Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #103

Did you even read the WHO report?? It says...... Logical Oct 2014 #126

of course I did... as far as the other 2% ecstatic Oct 2014 #135

Needless panic and freaking out makes me mad! nt Logical Oct 2014 #136

It's awesome if no one in that apartment caught it from him. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #88

No, we can not look forward to more fear mongering as there are no direct flights and the points Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #106

"no direct flights" has nothing to do with the state department issuing travel visas. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #109

I agree with the medical science , not Glenn Beck, but different strokes. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #111

And, again. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #113

What about Nigeria, are you serious that the borders are leak proof, really? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #114

Will you please do your research, first? Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #117

Nigeria contained the virus and is officially free of it, you have no faith in America, I get it. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #120

Now I have to think you're just putting me on. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #127

Travel restriction were imposed as they had shared borders, those were closed, no others. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #121

Also Nigeria does not share a border with the affected countries, in fact it's 1000 miles away. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #128

Well, you can always hope another one gets through, the media is salivating for one. Like I said Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #112

Funny you should mention Nigeria, which had upwards of 20 secondary and tertiary cases from one guy- Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #116

not all of the people who cared for Mr. Duncan have the same timeline TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #123

Good point. 840high Oct 2014 #133

Good news. Thanks. Tweedy Oct 2014 #125

Thanks for the summary. WhiteAndNerdy Oct 2014 #139