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In reply to the discussion: Obamacare not enough, so some in labor want single-payer system [View all]joshcryer
(62,296 posts)128. If Franken was seated or Kennedy didn't die, we'd have it.
It was purely on the Republicans. The timing was shit. We were basically boxed in. The public did decide, but the timing and the tragedy of Ted Kennedy dying was to the Republicans favor. They took advantage of it. In a more gentle world, they would've saw Kennedy's vision, and some of them would've voted for him, in his honor. But sadly, evil people prosper, and they didn't do that.
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It is the next step but won't happen until more progressives are put into congress
still_one
Sep 2014
#151
Obamacare is not access to healthcare, it's access to health insurance. YES FOR SINGLE PAYER
TheNutcracker
Sep 2014
#2
It sucks. I hate it. But I don't condemn Obama for not doing the impossible. n/t
nomorenomore08
Sep 2014
#68
The bill never had a public option, so we can blame fiibuster or anything we want.
merrily
Sep 2014
#81
SINGLE PAYER is not access to healthcare, it's access to health insurance.
IronLionZion
Sep 2014
#135
It is both. the extension of medicaid, and the subsidies based on income are
still_one
Sep 2014
#152
Americans have a remarkable propensity for conniving duplicity and shameless profiteering.
Adam051188
Sep 2014
#17
Again, not a "vow" against single payer. She's just talking about others' opposition to it.
SunSeeker
Sep 2014
#143
Oh well. We'll still get it without her support, even if it takes decades.
nomorenomore08
Sep 2014
#65
The best possible outcome of ACA is that Obamacare becomes the gateway to single payer.
Gormy Cuss
Sep 2014
#12
Because it seems to be changing some people's expectations on health care access and payments
Gormy Cuss
Sep 2014
#44
people were fed up with big insurance, so the president made us all customers
Doctor_J
Sep 2014
#133
No, magical thinking is believing that single payer would have happened when the ACA was passed.
Gormy Cuss
Sep 2014
#137
Hey, that's the best way to get a LOT of good accomplished for the vast majority of Americans.
calimary
Sep 2014
#16
The money is not going to be removed from the election process unless and until
merrily
Sep 2014
#85
The American people must make it clear that we are sick of our democracy being co-opted.
Enthusiast
Sep 2014
#122
If the American people don't find a way to make that clear, the politicians won't guess we are sick
merrily
Sep 2014
#124
I'm saying Medicare is not much better, still have insurance companies involved, no cap on
Hoyt
Sep 2014
#46
Let's fix medicare first. It is very limited and will only cover about 80% of medical costs.
YOHABLO
Sep 2014
#34
I agree about the ACA for sure. It would have been decades before anyone touched healthcare
Hoyt
Sep 2014
#86
Many want a National Health Service like in the UK. Single-payer is a step in that direction. n/t
pampango
Sep 2014
#36
Without Single-payer, We Will Never Be the Social/Competitive Business Equal of Europe
cer7711
Sep 2014
#76
SOME in labor want single payer? Anyone who does NOT want single payer is misinformed or evil.
merrily
Sep 2014
#78
Health insurance is an 800 billion dollar industry and would suddenly be eliminated.
Kablooie
Sep 2014
#148