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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts) Fri Sep 5, 2014, 09:21 PM Sep 2014

HRC has just written a glowing review of Kissinger's new book. STILL think we should nominate her? [View all]

(note: read this link first, THEN take the poll.)

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/hillary-clinton-henry-kissinger-world-order

Corollary question: if you supported her until you read the link, does this change anything for you? If so, why? If not, why not?

32 votes, 2 passes \| Time left: Unlimited
	Yes, we should STILL nominate her. This totally doesn't matter.
	6 (19%)
	We should probably still nominate her, but this bothers me some.
	0 (0%)
	We probably shouldn't nominate her now, but she could still redeem herself somehow
	1 (3%)
	We absolutely shouldn't nominate her now.
	25 (78%)
	2 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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HRC has just written a glowing review of Kissinger's new book. STILL think we should nominate her? [View all] Ken Burch Sep 2014 OP

I didn't support a Clinton candidacy until just a few minutes ago. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2014 #1

This and sniper fire Politicalboi Sep 2014 #2

I read some of the comments yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #6

People on the internets said that? Oh noes! Good thing polls say otherwise... Metric System Sep 2014 #69

Yeah, because pollsters have really proven to be objective, accurate and reliable. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #73

This isn't about her vs. a Repug. It's about nominating her at all. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #18

Ugh. The Clintons never fail to piss me off. Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #3

I honestly do not understand why everyone thinks she's a shoe-in. MelungeonWoman Sep 2014 #4

She's been in the public eye for 23 years XemaSab Sep 2014 #12

what gives you the idea that people in general don't like her? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #26

Maybe he hangs-out with Republicans? 4b5f940728b232b034e4 Sep 2014 #40

HA XemaSab Sep 2014 #42

Shoot, I voted for her in the '08 primaries. MelungeonWoman Sep 2014 #35

You do realize ....Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat right? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #44

If you think there's something wrong with that comment, then alert on it. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #76

HA right.....it wasn't the statement VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #77

And a unknown in 2008 took a 30 point lead from her! nt Logical Sep 2014 #38

and who do YOU think is going to do that this time? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #43

Nobody knew THAT candidate would do it at this point in 2006. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #61

So you want to put all your money on another dark horse rising up? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #78

LOL, who did YOU think might do it last time? You just.... Logical Sep 2014 #87

I think there was Presidential talk for him as soon as he gave that first speech... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #91

I saying people like you were claiming she was unbeatable last time. And Obama destroyed her. You... Logical Sep 2014 #93

but YOU see....everything doesn't happen the same way it did last time now DOES IT? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #94

Because judging by her rhetoric whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #83

Quelle surprise. nonbhn edgineered Sep 2014 #5

She will not get the nomination. ..she loses pipoman Sep 2014 #7

oh really? who? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #46

Anyone who wants change pipoman Sep 2014 #67

comeon....name names....who has a better chance at winning than HRC? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #79

You rest your case? Thank goodness. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #81

Futility. . pipoman Sep 2014 #82

Just one more brick in the wall for me. Motown_Johnny Sep 2014 #8

Yes better her than EW AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #9

Do you assume that every other state wants our nominee Ken Burch Sep 2014 #10

Wasting keystrokes on that one. nt LeftyMom Sep 2014 #16

Why would you say that? AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #25

Because I can read. And not really. nt LeftyMom Sep 2014 #27

Ahhh defamation AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #41

I assume AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #24

She has no claim to any inherent superiority over any other possible Dem candidate. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #36

she does have the polling numbers to "claim" doesn't she? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #47

So did Ed Muskie, in September of 1970(and I point that out sadly, because I liked Muskie). Ken Burch Sep 2014 #58

NOT HER numbers he didnt....SORRY epic fail! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #80

All of that means endorsing everything Kissinger ever did doesn't matter? Ken Burch Sep 2014 #89

Except all the states Clinton appeals to... Scootaloo Sep 2014 #56

Well this changes nothing for me Kalidurga Sep 2014 #11

If it's between her and a repub, I'm voting for her justiceischeap Sep 2014 #13

This was about the question of NOMINATING her, not about the fall. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #15

Well, it depends Ken Burch justiceischeap Sep 2014 #68

People been kissing his ass for decades. Rex Sep 2014 #14

True...that doesn't mean it doesn't matter, though. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #17

I think she thinks she has the oval office in the bag. Rex Sep 2014 #21

You see the GOP scared of losing Congress? Really? where did you see that? still_one Sep 2014 #30

Not what I said, reading comprehension skills are in dire need I see. Rex Sep 2014 #84

so educate me, here is your direct quote in the body still_one Sep 2014 #85

I was up for voting against her in the Primaries. Now...well, it has made a difference as to my libdem4life Sep 2014 #19

Yesterday I saw a play about LBJ, "The Great Society" XemaSab Sep 2014 #20

Maybe, but if she did as you say "throw all the troops at it", it would have to be with Congress still_one Sep 2014 #31

Not really. She can send 'em in for sixty days without Congressional approval Ken Burch Sep 2014 #62

yes still_one Sep 2014 #72

I voted "pass" because I didn't think we should nominate her before the Kissinger stuff. n/t winter is coming Sep 2014 #22

It doesn't change my mind as I was already not going to vote for her in the primary davidpdx Sep 2014 #23

I suspect a lot of folks on DU will have a problem if she becomes the nominee still_one Sep 2014 #28

No, we will hold our nose, eat light and take some pepto before casting out ballot for the Dem. LiberalArkie Sep 2014 #70

Don't like any of the choices. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #29

PASS ~ We should let the primaries nominate or not nominate her. Fair is fair. BlueCaliDem Sep 2014 #32

By "we", I meant the party in the primaries, not DU alone. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #34

Since we're on DU... BlueCaliDem Sep 2014 #45

Obviously, I was referring to the primary process Ken Burch Sep 2014 #59

AGREED! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author indie9197 Sep 2014 #33

Um this is Democratic Underground you are at.....WTF does what Bill Clinton is going to do... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #50

Oh, hell no! Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #37

I don't want to vote for anyone who voted for the Iraq war. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #39

No, absolutely not. She lives in a different world, she obviously wants to be one of them, the sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #48

"she is the last person we need running this country." zappaman Sep 2014 #53

What a fascinating comment.. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #54

Maybe Henry will vote for her. I won't. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #51

Kissinger. Former Secretary of Hate. Eeeeewww! nt Zorra Sep 2014 #52

I suspect that much of what she does elleng Sep 2014 #55

I thought the revolution was coming BainsBane Sep 2014 #57

You're just baiting here. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #60

I considered it more of a friendly jab BainsBane Sep 2014 #63

The other thread didn't CLAIM that "the revolution was just around the corner" and you know it. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #64

I'm actually not mad at all BainsBane Sep 2014 #65

The person you quoted HAD no valid point, because nobody was doing what he accused people of there. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #66

I will never vote for Hillary Clinton, for anything. Ever. 99Forever Sep 2014 #71

the HORROR!!!!!!! whistler162 Sep 2014 #74

having read the whole thing all the way through justabob Sep 2014 #86

There is nothing in the review that makes what she wrote inoffensive(I read the review). Ken Burch Sep 2014 #90

I never thought we should nominate her. nt LWolf Sep 2014 #75

Kissinger is a fucking monster hifiguy Sep 2014 #88

We should not nominate Hillary. bigwillq Sep 2014 #92

DU was going to nominate her before? joshcryer Sep 2014 #95

I meant the party, not DU. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #97

The poll was on DU. joshcryer Sep 2014 #98

She was never even close to my first choice, to begin with. This just further disappoints me. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #96