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elleng

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2. No, H2O Man, we must not.
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 01:46 PM
Aug 2014

Clark: ISIS is forcing a 'moment of truth'

America was rightly shocked by the brutal, videotaped murder of American journalist James Foley.

But we should not have been surprised. The Islamic State, as the jihadist group calls itself, has murdered, raped and savaged its way across borders in the Mideast and into the headlines as the latest terrorist foe from the region.

Foley's murder not only gives terrorist stature to ISIS but also, if it draws U.S. ground troops into the fight, will have given ISIS a recruiting bonanza. So the U.S. response requires, not just a set of airstrikes in revenge, but serious strategic calculation.

The U.S. must build a coordinated regional response -- diplomatic, economic and military -- with ground troops from our regional allies and friends, and with possible U.S. support with intelligence, logistics and airstrikes. But we cannot fight this war for our Islamic friends in the region. . .

The U.S. can use diplomacy and economic assistance, and it can strike using airpower, or special forces, to reinforce the efforts of our allies, but we cannot fight a religious war as proxies for our Islamic friends in the region.

The Mideast is approaching its moment of truth, particularly for Saudi Arabia. Having exported and promoted extremist Sunni religious ideology, Saudi Arabia must face up to the threat posed by its own, even more extremist progeny. It must summon the courage to take a firm stand now, before ISIS becomes even stronger.

For the U.S. there is nothing to be gained by delay. We must work urgently, behind the scenes, to shape an effective regional response, in coordination with our friends and allies, now.

http://www.kesq.com/news/clark-isis-is-forcing-a-moment-of-truth/27744016

edit: Posted here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016100884

A Question [View all] H2O Man Aug 2014 OP
Erect Bogeyman, wave flag, declare we need protection, give more money to the MIC. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #1
Right! H2O Man Aug 2014 #16
That is the same impression I get. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #49
No, H2O Man, we must not. elleng Aug 2014 #2
It's our oil. H2O Man Aug 2014 #17
Covering all of our bases, no matter which group we end up attacking, or both.... NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #3
Oh, beautiful! H2O Man Aug 2014 #18
omg....I never knew that... Thanks! KoKo Aug 2014 #22
Edited subject line: Reagan met with the Mujahadeen but the quote is about the Contras in Nicaragua. scarletwoman Aug 2014 #39
Excellent clarification, thanks! NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #43
Yeah, that picture has been spread around quite a lot, unfortunately. scarletwoman Aug 2014 #44
No, Reagan did not meet with the Taliban. former9thward Aug 2014 #47
You are correct - I misspoke (miswrote?)! scarletwoman Aug 2014 #55
That picture has been debunked so many times. former9thward Aug 2014 #45
Misleading image removed, reply edited. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #46
Reagan really wasn't very well informed. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #50
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose alsame Aug 2014 #4
You're not the only one wondering about this 'new, much meaner, more brutal remember the sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #5
Were you here on DU for the "Fat Osama, Skinny Osama" Latest Video Debate? KoKo Aug 2014 #19
Yes, I remember the 'fat' Osama and the 'thin' Osama, the dark and the grey bearded sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #56
So much fear-mongering going on in the media. R.Quinn Aug 2014 #6
Somehow the answer is always "we have to go back in" phantom power Aug 2014 #7
The people running ISIS do not hate us. MH1 Aug 2014 #8
The programming of America is at full throttle. The propaganda is rife on MSNBC today. ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #9
Haven't learned the lesson yet... jtuck004 Aug 2014 #10
if we don't watch out, we'll soon be arming al Qaeda to defeat ISIS. Voice for Peace Aug 2014 #11
bringing back the old "enemy of my enemy is my friend" days rurallib Aug 2014 #15
I think they've told us so many stories, THEY can't remember who is who so you may sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #40
al-Qaeda, ISIS, and the wheel. All inventions, but only one benefits humankind. nt valerief Aug 2014 #12
I'm remembering the IRA bombings way back in the day. eggplant Aug 2014 #13
The IRA H2O Man Aug 2014 #14
Heh. I knew I'd be opening a can of worms here. eggplant Aug 2014 #30
No, not at all. H2O Man Aug 2014 #31
I'M NOT SHOUTING! eggplant Aug 2014 #32
Yes, they were ... sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #36
Wait till America no longer cares about Islamic Terrorists.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #20
You eloquently put into words what I have thinking. madfloridian Aug 2014 #21
Thank you! H2O Man Aug 2014 #26
al Qisis whatchamacallit Aug 2014 #23
Hell freaking NO, we don't need to go!!! lark Aug 2014 #24
Yes, we must. You seem confused. "Reports that say...that something hasn't happened Zorra Aug 2014 #25
Beautiful! H2O Man Aug 2014 #28
There is an other possibility. zeemike Aug 2014 #27
Evidently, you were not aware that the head imam in Saudi Arabia declared that ISIS . . . Major Hogwash Aug 2014 #29
As far as I can tell, Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #33
Your First Point Seems To Define . . . ProfessorGAC Aug 2014 #53
Why is this back on page 3? madfloridian Aug 2014 #34
I think of it as an old Johnny Carson routine: scarletwoman Aug 2014 #35
Lol! Good one! sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #41
This had been a long steady march to war. morningfog Aug 2014 #37
The American Prayer... RagAss Aug 2014 #38
The drums of war are beating ever louder - Again. suffragette Aug 2014 #42
Even dear Rachel is calling out the wusses. GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #48
There is no hope. Amonester Aug 2014 #51
Juan Cole: Islamic State of Iraq & Levant too Extreme for al-Qaeda (Not the Onion) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #52
It reminds me of the children's song: I know an old lady who swallowed a fly - myrna minx Aug 2014 #54
Okay, that's a long post and I read it all... Chan790 Aug 2014 #57
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