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H2O Man

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Wed Aug 27, 2014, 01:39 PM Aug 2014

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A while back, I heard a talking head on television say: “Isis is no bad that even al Qaeda despises them.” And I remember thinking, “gosh,” when I heard that. Because for about a full decade, al Qaeda was definitely the most evil, deadly, vicious collection of mean people in the history of the human race. I mean, there aren’t many enemies who are so evil, deadly, vicious, and mean that almost the entire American public was happy to have strong and heroic leaders -- and I’m talking Bush-Cheney -- destroy the Constitution of the United States, in order to protect us.

I mean, al Qaeda hated us for our freedoms. So we submitted those freedoms to Bush and Cheney. And now, Isis hates us. Obviously, they can’t hate us for our freedoms now. So, like, what is their problem? In my quest to find the answer to that question, I have continued to watch and read the news. I took special interest in the experts, almost all of whom were soon saying, “Isis is so terrible, that even al Qaeda hates the.”

Now, I’m not the type of guy who would enjoy having any religious fanatic chop my head off. That just seems unpleasant to me. And while I enjoy talking/ listening to other people, including those who hold different opinions or beliefs than me, I’m not particularly interested in hearing out a religious fanatic who cuts other people’s heads off. If they cut their own head off, then maybe I’d be curious to hear their explanation of why they opted to do such a thing.

So, I’m good with the bit about Isis and al Qaeda being bad guys. Very bad guys. But I still haven’t heard anything that proves that Isis is so bad, that even al Qaeda hates them. Instead, I’ve heard more and more talking heads on my television repeating that.

Now, I know that before they changed the name of their team to “Isis,” some of them were known as “al Qaeda in Iraq.” That was the name our politicians and media gave them, though. It wasn’t like they came up with that name, and then took a vote. I suspect Bush-Cheney called them that, in part because the real al Qaeda wasn’t in Iraq (they were in the Saudi and Pakistani intelligence). But, if there wasn’t any WMD or al Qaeda in Iraq, the American public might have questioned what the heck we were doing there. And if they knew the answer to that, they might actually have been less inclined to hand in their constitutional rights.

So, now we know that Isis is extra-evil, so much so that al Qaeda hates them. It’s one of those lines (almost left the “n” out) that prepares the American public that we absolutely need to attack them. For humanitarian reasons. We must! And to prevent their attacking us. We must! And to protect the American energy executives now inhabiting a city in northern Iraq.

Must we?

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A Question [View all] H2O Man Aug 2014 OP
Erect Bogeyman, wave flag, declare we need protection, give more money to the MIC. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #1
Right! H2O Man Aug 2014 #16
That is the same impression I get. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #49
No, H2O Man, we must not. elleng Aug 2014 #2
It's our oil. H2O Man Aug 2014 #17
Covering all of our bases, no matter which group we end up attacking, or both.... NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #3
Oh, beautiful! H2O Man Aug 2014 #18
omg....I never knew that... Thanks! KoKo Aug 2014 #22
Edited subject line: Reagan met with the Mujahadeen but the quote is about the Contras in Nicaragua. scarletwoman Aug 2014 #39
Excellent clarification, thanks! NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #43
Yeah, that picture has been spread around quite a lot, unfortunately. scarletwoman Aug 2014 #44
No, Reagan did not meet with the Taliban. former9thward Aug 2014 #47
You are correct - I misspoke (miswrote?)! scarletwoman Aug 2014 #55
That picture has been debunked so many times. former9thward Aug 2014 #45
Misleading image removed, reply edited. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #46
Reagan really wasn't very well informed. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #50
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose alsame Aug 2014 #4
You're not the only one wondering about this 'new, much meaner, more brutal remember the sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #5
Were you here on DU for the "Fat Osama, Skinny Osama" Latest Video Debate? KoKo Aug 2014 #19
Yes, I remember the 'fat' Osama and the 'thin' Osama, the dark and the grey bearded sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #56
So much fear-mongering going on in the media. R.Quinn Aug 2014 #6
Somehow the answer is always "we have to go back in" phantom power Aug 2014 #7
The people running ISIS do not hate us. MH1 Aug 2014 #8
The programming of America is at full throttle. The propaganda is rife on MSNBC today. ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #9
Haven't learned the lesson yet... jtuck004 Aug 2014 #10
if we don't watch out, we'll soon be arming al Qaeda to defeat ISIS. Voice for Peace Aug 2014 #11
bringing back the old "enemy of my enemy is my friend" days rurallib Aug 2014 #15
I think they've told us so many stories, THEY can't remember who is who so you may sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #40
al-Qaeda, ISIS, and the wheel. All inventions, but only one benefits humankind. nt valerief Aug 2014 #12
I'm remembering the IRA bombings way back in the day. eggplant Aug 2014 #13
The IRA H2O Man Aug 2014 #14
Heh. I knew I'd be opening a can of worms here. eggplant Aug 2014 #30
No, not at all. H2O Man Aug 2014 #31
I'M NOT SHOUTING! eggplant Aug 2014 #32
Yes, they were ... sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #36
Wait till America no longer cares about Islamic Terrorists.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #20
You eloquently put into words what I have thinking. madfloridian Aug 2014 #21
Thank you! H2O Man Aug 2014 #26
al Qisis whatchamacallit Aug 2014 #23
Hell freaking NO, we don't need to go!!! lark Aug 2014 #24
Yes, we must. You seem confused. "Reports that say...that something hasn't happened Zorra Aug 2014 #25
Beautiful! H2O Man Aug 2014 #28
There is an other possibility. zeemike Aug 2014 #27
Evidently, you were not aware that the head imam in Saudi Arabia declared that ISIS . . . Major Hogwash Aug 2014 #29
As far as I can tell, Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #33
Your First Point Seems To Define . . . ProfessorGAC Aug 2014 #53
Why is this back on page 3? madfloridian Aug 2014 #34
I think of it as an old Johnny Carson routine: scarletwoman Aug 2014 #35
Lol! Good one! sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #41
This had been a long steady march to war. morningfog Aug 2014 #37
The American Prayer... RagAss Aug 2014 #38
The drums of war are beating ever louder - Again. suffragette Aug 2014 #42
Even dear Rachel is calling out the wusses. GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #48
There is no hope. Amonester Aug 2014 #51
Juan Cole: Islamic State of Iraq & Levant too Extreme for al-Qaeda (Not the Onion) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #52
It reminds me of the children's song: I know an old lady who swallowed a fly - myrna minx Aug 2014 #54
Okay, that's a long post and I read it all... Chan790 Aug 2014 #57
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