Bill Maher Blasts ‘Useless Obama Hacks without a Shred of Intellectual Honesty’ (NSA spying)

[thesquanderer]

31. Russia???

You want "Snow-Wald to widen the public discussion to other countries (**cough*cough** Russia)"??

Snowden worked at the NSA, so had access to all kinds of inside info about what was happening there. What makes you think he has any inside info about what's happening in Russia? Besides, revealing what's happening in the U.S. is what really has value to us here in the U.S., because, at least in theory, we can do something about it. Protest, vote, contact our representatives... Why do we need to know what Russia is doing? What could we do about it? And haven't we always assumed they did this kind of stuff anyway (and that's one of the things that ostensibly made the U.S. "better&quot ? I don't think "Russia Spies on its Citizens" (or anyone elsewhere) is going to make headlines anywhere.

And I really don't even see the relevance. Either you care about the issues they raise, or you don't.They are doing what they are doing, what does it matter what other things they are not doing? So, they don't talk about Russia. They don't talk about whaling in Japan or child labor in China either. So what? I mean, even if he has some kind of incriminating info on Russia via his NSA work, how does not revealing it change anything we know?

Also... you say you want them to "tell the world how and why this thing really went down from beginning to end" and to answer unanswered questions, etc.... I'm not sure which questions you're talking about, or which aspect you are referring to when you said "this thing," but one thing "Snow-Wald" has said is that there is info there that they will not release... even Snowden recognizes that some of the secrets he knows may be secret for good reason. That doesn't reduce the value of the information that has come to light. I don't see how not knowing every last detail (some of which may even put someone in danger if released) in any way makes his/their contribution to the conversation about civil liberties any less important.

re: "on some occasions Snow-Wald have intentionally shielded Google from being implicated in their stories...I want to know why." -- I don't know what this is about, might you have a link to post? The obvious "Occam's Razor" reason to shield someone from implication would be if you think they're not guilty of what they're being accused of, but I don't know anything about this story. Though still, getting back to my bigger point, I don't feel we are owed explanations for everything they do or don't do. The information is the information. Attacking them for reasons of motive, character, affiliation, etc., all lead to little more than ad hominem attacks and defenses which are really beside the point.