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Bluenorthwest

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20. If one Senator had stood with the House Black Caucus to continue the recount would that have allowed

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 09:05 AM

Jul 2014

Gore to actually take the office he won? Would it have harmed anyone or anything to count the votes? Was the Black Caucus wrong? Why wouldn't Biden, Clinton and the rest of that body count the votes? Hagel. All these people now in power said 'do not count those votes'.

I wonder if that's more pertinent than some 80 year old with no power who ran for office and got less than 2% of the vote on his best shot?

I think the focus on Nader distracts from far more culpable people, Bush, SCOTUS, Cheney, the Senate, Harris, Jeb, all of them took part. Add Ralph to the list, but don't try to distill the whole thing down to a asterisk like him. That's dishonest. It just is.

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Simple question about Nader. [View all] trumad Jul 2014 OP

I can honestly say I don't know. A lot of dirty shenanigans went on in Florida! B Calm Jul 2014 #1

Exactly. We have no way of knowing how far bush morningfog Jul 2014 #3

That's my impression as well. AngryOldDem Jul 2014 #17

True, and we will never know whether the people that voted Nader City Lights Jul 2014 #37

Poorly designed poll. Al Gore did win the Presidency. morningfog Jul 2014 #2

If Nadar's constitutionally valid campaign hadn't occurred, would Florida have been close enough to el_bryanto Jul 2014 #4

I don't accept your question. It suggests that we morningfog Jul 2014 #6

Fair enough - If you aren't going to accept my question, I won't accept your answer el_bryanto Jul 2014 #7

No we do not. We have no way of knowing what morningfog Jul 2014 #9

Except that this is the real world, and we saw what happened when we listened to Nadar el_bryanto Jul 2014 #10

No people died in Iraq due to your voting for the candidate that better represented your views. morningfog Jul 2014 #11

Did Nadar and Nadar supporter argue that there was no difference between Bush and Gore? Yes. el_bryanto Jul 2014 #12

Did Bush STEAL the fucking White House? Fucking Yes. morningfog Jul 2014 #14

Yep - Bush is an asshole. So why did Nadar try and paint Gore as basically the same as him? nt el_bryanto Jul 2014 #16

WHo fucking cares? Bush stole the White House. morningfog Jul 2014 #18

Because actions have consequences. Yes we should hold Bush responsible el_bryanto Jul 2014 #19

Bullshit. morningfog Jul 2014 #21

If we don't want people to see similarities in the two Parties, you know what we should not do? Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #24

This poll wasn't bout Lieberman (asshole) or Hagel, Biden, or Clinton el_bryanto Jul 2014 #25

It's about election 2000. Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #30

Let's go back and look at the poll again el_bryanto Jul 2014 #32

+1000 nt Javaman Jul 2014 #15

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #45

Al Gore still would have won and still would not have been President liberal N proud Jul 2014 #5

Nope. The margin would not nearly have been so close. onehandle Jul 2014 #22

Pass - Al Gore did win the presidency, but it was stolen quinnox Jul 2014 #8

+1 nt Javaman Jul 2014 #13

! City Lights Jul 2014 #38

If one Senator had stood with the House Black Caucus to continue the recount would that have allowed Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #20

History suggests it wouldnt help. In 2004 we had a senator concur with a Pres election challenge stevenleser Jul 2014 #29

So you agree with Chris Dodd that the Black Caucus was show boating? Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #33

No, just like we anti-war protesters were not showboating about Iraq. Just because you cannot stevenleser Jul 2014 #35

The question as asked does not imply whether he did or not rock Jul 2014 #23

I know, that's why I didn't play along and went with option 3! B Calm Jul 2014 #26

So if the question been rock Jul 2014 #36

Seeing how Gore had the most votes even with Nader in the race, the outcome is still the same. If B Calm Jul 2014 #42

It is obvious that, if Gore won with Nader in the race, and he did, barely, bemildred Jul 2014 #27

Well he did win the Presidency, even with Nader running so the question is moot imo. Rex Jul 2014 #28

Yes. Period. DanTex Jul 2014 #31

Nader or no Nader, they were going to steal it. CrispyQ Jul 2014 #34

Gore failed to win because he didn't convince enough voters to vote for him. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #39

Gore did win. Even with Lieberman. JEB Jul 2014 #40

No one knows. Orsino Jul 2014 #41

Kick trumad Jul 2014 #43

Al Gore did win the election. That he didn't take the office is not Nader's fault. nt riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #44

Al Gore won. Full stop. Also GOLDSTEIN!!!12 frylock Jul 2014 #46

I chose "pass" because I don't know. You might want to add that as an option. n/t winter is coming Jul 2014 #47

but that would defeat the purpose of the poll, which is just a "cleverly" disguised.. frylock Jul 2014 #48