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19. for the folks that want to see both sides of issue
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 09:33 PM
Mar 2014

The White House Has Been Covering Up the Presidency’s Role in Torture for Years
By Marcy Wheeler
The / / Intercept
Mar 13, 2014, 4:18 PM EDT

The fight between the CIA and the Senate Intelligence Committee over the Committee’s Torture Report – which Dan Froomkin covered here – has now zeroed in on the White House.

Did the White House order the CIA to withdraw 920 documents from a server made available to Committee staffers, as Senator Dianne Feinstein says the agency claimed in 2010? Were those documents – perhaps thousands of them – pulled in deference to a White House claim of executive privilege, as Senator Mark Udall and then CIA General Counsel Stephen Preston suggested last fall? And is the White House continuing to withhold 9,000 pages of documents without invoking privilege, as McClatchy reported yesterday?

We can be sure about one thing: The Obama White House has covered up the Bush presidency’s role in the torture program for years. Specifically, from 2009 to 2012, the administration went to extraordinary lengths to keep a single short phrase, describing President Bush’s authorization of the torture program, secret.

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Some time before October 29, 2009, then National Security Advisor Jim Jones filed an ex parte classified declaration with the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, in response to a FOIA request by the ACLU seeking documents related to the torture program. In it, Jones argued that the CIA should not be forced to disclose the “source of the CIA’s authority,” as referenced in the title of a document providing “Guidelines for Interrogations” and signed by then CIA Director George Tenet. That document was cited in two Justice Department memos at issue in the FOIA. Jones claimed that “source of authority” constituted an intelligence method that needed to be protected…

Kick! n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #1
for the folks that want to see both sides of issue questionseverything Mar 2014 #19
You mean, for those who want the speculative spin. ProSense Mar 2014 #20
potus can still get on the right side of this mess questionseverything Mar 2014 #25
You ProSense Mar 2014 #26
i have defended panetta on these boards for that reason questionseverything Mar 2014 #29
Panetta ProSense Mar 2014 #32
Yeah. Panetta came up with that great idea. How'd that work out. Wilms Mar 2014 #42
As I said in the OP ProSense Mar 2014 #43
Yeah, it's always good to see the Libertarian viewpoint here. pnwmom Mar 2014 #52
kicking for the facts mopinko Mar 2014 #2
Thanks. ProSense Mar 2014 #5
valuable facts Rumold Mar 2014 #8
Oooops!!! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #22
I was ProSense Mar 2014 #35
try this when you read about his drone policy... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #53
Utter nonsense. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #54
Because you say so? lol 100,000 beat the drum for Obama posts... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #56
No, because it's nonsense. Also, ProSense Mar 2014 #57
Sorry, insufficient claims of nonsense to persuade anyone. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #58
LOL! No more videos? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #60
Want one of a tap dance or a side shuffle? Which are you better at? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #61
Kick madokie Mar 2014 #3
Something i'm curious about, that doesn't have to do with Obama is...if the CIA was made aware a okaawhatever Mar 2014 #4
Access to the documents ProSense Mar 2014 #7
and the document was what panetta was send to cia to produce. mopinko Mar 2014 #18
The fact that they were removed indicates how damaging they likely are. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #39
KICK!!! freshwest Mar 2014 #6
kicketyrec nt Voice for Peace Mar 2014 #9
K & R Iliyah Mar 2014 #10
It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. ProSense Mar 2014 #16
More kicking, for the excellent analysis ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #11
"Obama provided evidence of Bush's torture program to the Senate" Kick Hekate Mar 2014 #12
Yup. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #15
I imagine we'll soon see Cheney's ungly snarling face complaining about Benghazi. tofuandbeer Mar 2014 #13
Kick! n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #14
Oh, they're gonna hate this.. if they would even Cha Mar 2014 #17
Soooooo stealing this...nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #21
Kick! Cha Mar 2014 #23
Pretty much. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #24
blue links! blue blinks! Whisp Mar 2014 #40
They talk about Cha Mar 2014 #63
Exactly. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #64
KICK! Cha Mar 2014 #66
so freaking evil the damages the Cheneybush gang did to everything they touched. Sunlei Mar 2014 #27
I'm just amazed they got the documents and put Historic NY Mar 2014 #28
Why is everybody surprised that Obama isn't in control librechik Mar 2014 #30
I'm not surprised at all. I know and so do bushcheney gang, they are immune, protected by laws. Sunlei Mar 2014 #65
It's pretty clear: Obama wanted Feinstein's findings to conform to a certain narrative MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #31
No, ProSense Mar 2014 #33
We can certainly agree that *one of us* doesn't have MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #34
Here: ProSense Mar 2014 #36
obama personally hacked the computers? mopinko Mar 2014 #44
I said that? MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #46
Leon Panetta, watch your back librechik Mar 2014 #37
hire a food taster. mopinko Mar 2014 #45
You rarely see Bush in public sorefeet Mar 2014 #38
'Bush' and 'arrest' in the same sentence... Whisp Mar 2014 #41
Wow, Once again (and again and again) proof that the buck doesnt stop with Pres Obama. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #47
The OP ProSense Mar 2014 #48
So you are saying that the buck does stop with Pres Obama? Or not? nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #49
I can't help you with reading comprehension. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #50
Good. So, Obama will order the CIA to release the documents, and bring the torturers to justice. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #51
Obama already urged them to cough up the report ASAP, in his first response to DiFi librechik Mar 2014 #55
Did you see Durbin's letter to Brennan: ProSense Mar 2014 #62
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