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201. No! No documented death caused by cannabis.

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Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:02 PM

Feb 2014

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Connecticut has very likely created tens of thousands of newly minted criminals; 20-100k at least [View all] The Straight Story Feb 2014 OP

Compare this to driving an unregistered car or opening an unregistered factory. DetlefK Feb 2014 #1

Why don't they register them? Marrah_G Feb 2014 #2

responsible gun owners that's funny... mikeysnot Feb 2014 #8

Combination of ignorance of the law and civil disobedience I would imagine. nt hack89 Feb 2014 #10

Maybe they're too scared. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2014 #11

Most likely they are not scared of the government hack89 Feb 2014 #22

Many people ignore the law whenever they feel they can get away with it. bemildred Feb 2014 #36

Cars are not considered household property. NutmegYankee Feb 2014 #117

I am sure they will find another feel good law to pass that will fix it. Nt hack89 Feb 2014 #3

They will likely extend the registry deadline pipoman Feb 2014 #6

Just like the bumper sticker says: rgbecker Feb 2014 #4

They didn't outlaw guns. n/t cui bono Feb 2014 #153

They didn't outlaw guns for now. That doesn't mean they will not in the future. (n/t) spin Feb 2014 #204

depending on the specifics of the law.. pipoman Feb 2014 #5

Throw them to the privatized prison industry. aquart Feb 2014 #7

I'd prefer heavy fines per day of law breakage drynberg Feb 2014 #9

Law enforcement has bigger issues to deal with hack89 Feb 2014 #13

No it wasn't registered to the Sandy Hook killer! rdharma Feb 2014 #26

Never said it was - it was registered to his mother hack89 Feb 2014 #27

Are mass shootings the only kind of gun violence? rdharma Feb 2014 #44

I support all proposed guns law with two exceptions hack89 Feb 2014 #49

Does the ACLU tell you that President Obama is gonna confiscate your guns? rdharma Feb 2014 #50

No - there is no political will or public sentiment in America to confiscate guns hack89 Feb 2014 #52

Then they're probably also against automobile registration.......... right? rdharma Feb 2014 #57

I think the difference here is that they think the registration of a gun is to track the person Packerowner740 Feb 2014 #58

Bingo! rdharma Feb 2014 #72

Beats me. I just know they oppose gun registration. hack89 Feb 2014 #59

Not many gun deaths by AR-15? Are you kidding? rdharma Feb 2014 #74

Knives, blunt objects and hands/feet kill many more people annually hack89 Feb 2014 #80

How many people would have been killed by the AR-15 equipped mass murderers ............. rdharma Feb 2014 #84

So explain how registration would have prevented those crimes. Come on, you can do it. hack89 Feb 2014 #86

Webster! rdharma Feb 2014 #98

Knew you couldn't. Sandy Hook is particularly difficult to explain, isn't it? nt hack89 Feb 2014 #99

Once again....... Webster! rdharma Feb 2014 #100

So a felon who got an illegal gun through a strawman purchase is your example? hack89 Feb 2014 #107

Yes! Do you think the person who sold him this AR-15 would have done it........ rdharma Feb 2014 #110

Considering they already had a permanent record of her purchasing the gun hack89 Feb 2014 #115

Put the sporting stock on it and it's not scary nor dangerous anymore. problem solved. NM_Birder Feb 2014 #87

I own a car that will go over 75 mph. rdharma Feb 2014 #96

No he is not kidding you a bit proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #101

Oakland? rdharma Feb 2014 #103

Oakland is a great example of how strict gun control does not work. proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #114

Does California have universal gun registration? rdharma Feb 2014 #116

I'm sure that the ATF was all over these gun stores. proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #181

You were talking about strict gun controll in CA. rdharma Feb 2014 #182

You're hinging on a nonsense argument Scootaloo Feb 2014 #154

"registration doesn't prevent criminal use of guns...make the guns used in crime easier to track" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #158

Registration of original purchase........ rdharma Feb 2014 #183

Except there is already a permanent record of the straw purchase hack89 Feb 2014 #186

Please explain how that works...... and what is required of the seller! rdharma Feb 2014 #187

You have a point - registration is useless without UBCs hack89 Feb 2014 #191

Tell me, how do they track the FFL records. Is there a central/easily retrievable repository? rdharma Feb 2014 #194

Two step process hack89 Feb 2014 #202

Oh, that's easy! Computer record? OR......... rdharma Feb 2014 #205

Ok nt hack89 Feb 2014 #208

Obama will never confiscate firearms even though he has a pen and a telephone. ... spin Feb 2014 #206

Take a "chill pill", dude! nt rdharma Feb 2014 #209

Yeah, because he stole it krispos42 Feb 2014 #141

Whatever it was...... it sure didn't save that "responsible" gun owner........... rdharma Feb 2014 #142

Were they supposed to, outside of certain straw arguments? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #149

Yes they were supposed to save the "prepper" owner......... rdharma Feb 2014 #166

Heard that from the owner, did you? Interesting. friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #189

change the stock to a sporting model... POOF.. it's no longer an "assault" weapon NM_Birder Feb 2014 #85

We should be creating less criminals in this country NobodyHere Feb 2014 #12

Criminals create themselves when they refuse to comply. nt TheMathieu Feb 2014 #33

Obey, citizen. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #65

Hell yes! Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #75

The compliance officer will see you now AngryAmish Feb 2014 #76

Do you actually have a point you can articulate, or just silly innuendo? Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #81

It is stated, very clearly, in Title IV, Section 3, Subsection b AngryAmish Feb 2014 #83

A simple "no" would have sufficed... N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #111

This is the deal: AngryAmish Feb 2014 #122

Guns kill 30,000 people a year, and your mocking those who try to tackle that? Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #147

If an attempt to tackle gun crime is poorly thought out, it SHOULD be mocked friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #185

Yes, but it should be mocked for being inadequate, not excessive. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #193

Fighting gun crime by making what was legal and harmed none a crime... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #196

Legal yes, harmed no-one no. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #198

You *are* aware that guns harm no one without human intervention, no? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #199

Did you just make that claim up out of thin air? Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #213

I said *rifles*, which are indeed rarely used in crime- so sayeth the Feds friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #215

"unlicensed murder weapons." Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #112

You know what's really ridiculous - to the point of being beyond parody? Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #113

"a step in the right direction" NutmegYankee Feb 2014 #118

More incremental criminalization, 'tho they're reluctant to actually admit it... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #120

I am? See #144. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #145

You're excused, then. I was referring more to our homegrown prohibitionists friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #150

How has your (UK) Murder rates changed since 1900? One_Life_To_Give Feb 2014 #176

And how does that compare to the US in the same period? Your attempt at a point fails. stevenleser Feb 2014 #211

Arizona Territory or Boston? One_Life_To_Give Feb 2014 #214

Do you mean "should be" or "will be"? Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #144

So you want to ban semiautomatic rifles? hack89 Feb 2014 #119

I am? See #144. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #146

I get a kick how divorced from American cultural and political reality hack89 Feb 2014 #164

I don't give handguns a pass. They need relegating to locked rooms in your home. Hoyt Feb 2014 #170

Thanks for your help and support hack89 Feb 2014 #172

Anytime. I love you guys, just not your guns. Hoyt Feb 2014 #173

From the OP, anywhere from 50, 000 to 350,000 weapons -- in this 1 state -- remain unregistered Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #159

Apply that BS logic to immigration. NM_Birder Feb 2014 #91

A "Responsible Gun Owner" would have followed the law. Bettie Feb 2014 #14

Took the words out of my mouth. sybylla Feb 2014 #23

Ain't civil disobedience grand? aikoaiko Feb 2014 #174

OP is correct Shamash Feb 2014 #15

How about 100 years in prison is your weapon dsc Feb 2014 #16

Considering how rarely rifles are used in crimes hack89 Feb 2014 #18

How about a realistic solution? Lurks Often Feb 2014 #20

why wouldn't it hold up to judicial scrutiny dsc Feb 2014 #30

Since you've been living under a rock (on a different planet) Shamash Feb 2014 #37

Intentionally not complying with the law IS criminal intent. rdharma Feb 2014 #46

^Man who has no sympathy for someone wanting to sit in the front of the bus Shamash Feb 2014 #51

That post doesn't even make sense. rdharma Feb 2014 #55

I think he/she is trying to make some connection between guns an Packerowner740 Feb 2014 #60

Of course! What Rosa Parks did is exactly like some RW gun-hugger breaking the law! rdharma Feb 2014 #67

Just another gun fancier feeling "discriminated" against, and willing to use real civil rights Hoyt Feb 2014 #73

In English, your answer was all-purpose bigotry Shamash Feb 2014 #62

Who do you think you're fooling? rdharma Feb 2014 #71

U sur no lgoc reel gud TheSarcastinator Feb 2014 #77

Huh??? The only bigots are the gun-owners themselves. They were and still are madinmaryland Feb 2014 #104

-1 for trying to rewrite history. Rosa Parks owned guns and made no bones about it: friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #121

No. The fact she had guns doesn't mean comparing Rosa Parks and the civil rights movement kcr Feb 2014 #123

Ms. Parks fought for the Fourteenth Amendment rights of all, and sometimes exercised... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #124

Just because you claim something infringing on a constitutional right doesn't make it so. kcr Feb 2014 #127

Umm, the DU cite was from 2010, long before Nugent ever mentioned her friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #128

Ummmmmmm, I stand by my point kcr Feb 2014 #131

You say "No associational fallacy about it." and continue talking about Nugent... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #138

No, I pretty much said to feel free to believe the crappy right wing nutty talking point kcr Feb 2014 #139

Nugent is an ignoramous who didn't know Parks was pretty hard Left... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #152

What's MY excuse? I think you're confused. I'm not the one who buys the idiot talking point. kcr Feb 2014 #162

I don't approve of life in prison for shoplifting dsc Feb 2014 #70

I noticed you skipped the part about getting it through the legislature Lurks Often Feb 2014 #39

Where is this "mandatory" 100 years in prison coming from? rdharma Feb 2014 #47

To quote the best football movie of all time... Bazinga Feb 2014 #38

The State of CT is unlikely do anything Lurks Often Feb 2014 #17

Exactly Shamash Feb 2014 #25

This is a pot-prohibition wet noodle legalism... Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #31

The law is a joke to anybody who actually understands how firearms works Lurks Often Feb 2014 #40

another brilliant gun humping response TheSarcastinator Feb 2014 #88

What's so brilliant is that your argument is so pathetic Lurks Often Feb 2014 #94

Great. nt RiffRandell Feb 2014 #19

Good Capt. Obvious Feb 2014 #21

why is this in GD? Shouldn't it go straight to RKBA? CTyankee Feb 2014 #24

It is about legislation, not a shooting The Straight Story Feb 2014 #29

Some idiot didn't shoot himself in the foot in Macon? You're right! Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #34

Wow, haven't seen you in these parts since maybe never, Eleanors38! CTyankee Feb 2014 #66

Where you been? Dark corner? They're turning out the lights. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #135

durn, musta missed that...but I think you might like it here... CTyankee Feb 2014 #143

Glad you joined us. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #165

class of 2004 here...glad you came on board a couple of years later! CTyankee Feb 2014 #168

Guns are allowed in GD. Didn't you get the memo? nt hack89 Feb 2014 #41

If they don't register... albino65 Feb 2014 #28

Solution: Comply with the law. nt TheMathieu Feb 2014 #32

All laws ? EVERY CITIZEN ? NM_Birder Feb 2014 #90

"who have broken no other laws..." joeybee12 Feb 2014 #35

The crap journalism started with the headline Gormy Cuss Feb 2014 #64

You're right...this "journalist" clearly has an agenda...nt joeybee12 Feb 2014 #68

How dare we in CT pass such a law! CTyankee Feb 2014 #148

Sorry, but that's how gun control works. And don't most of us want gun control? Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #42

I say, round 'em up & horse-whip 'em lastlib Feb 2014 #43

This just in: people often blow off pointless, seldom-enforced laws. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2014 #45

Some folks drive too fast in school zones too. ntl rdharma Feb 2014 #48

Ha. So gun owners aren't as "law-abiding" as they try to tell us. Are you really surprised? Hoyt Feb 2014 #53

So if they outlaw abortion and women still have them? The Straight Story Feb 2014 #54

Women don't use the "I'm law-abiding" ruse. But nice try. Fact is, gun fanciers are Hoyt Feb 2014 #56

Was his question too difficult to reply to? Shamash Feb 2014 #63

I did not deflect. His question had nothing to do with issue. Abortions and gunz are hardly similar Hoyt Feb 2014 #69

For YOU it is about guns. For others it is about rights. The Straight Story Feb 2014 #78

Allowing a bunch of gun fanciers to arm up, ain't progressive. Hoyt Feb 2014 #82

And that's what it boils down to: You don't like it friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #126

Only those addicted to the dang things and/or right wingers like it, Hoyt Feb 2014 #133

There's that "poisioning the well" thing, again... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #134

There's that you don't care what gunz do to society, as long as you have yours. Hoyt Feb 2014 #136

There's that "strawman" thing, again... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #137

Do your state's gun laws allow one to tote in church? Hoyt Feb 2014 #157

My state does Travis_0004 Feb 2014 #160

I'm not sure any of those incidents required a gun, but gun fanciers do think it's the only way to Hoyt Feb 2014 #169

"...gun fanciers do think it's the only way...". More telepsychology, Hoyt? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #197

awesome and brilliant argument! TheSarcastinator Feb 2014 #89

That would have been a snappy reply if that was what he had actually said friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #125

Gun ownership should not be a right, any more than driving a car is. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #155

That's your opinion, sked14 Feb 2014 #167

I think you've just come up with the Universal Response. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #175

Good luck. sked14 Feb 2014 #177

Nor me - I'm entirely aware I'm tilting at windmills here. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #178

FWIW, here are my ideas on gun control sked14 Feb 2014 #179

immigration.......another one NM_Birder Feb 2014 #92

Sigh, just more ammo for Republicans MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #61

We don't need gun owner votes anyway seveneyes Feb 2014 #79

how bout a "war on guns" working well with drugs right ? NM_Birder Feb 2014 #93

so registering firearms = a "war on guns"? TheSarcastinator Feb 2014 #95

LOL... NM_Birder Feb 2014 #105

Hardly hyperbole- there's quite a few that would like to go all Harry J. Anslinger on guns friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #130

How about nail-bombs? Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #180

Nail bombs are 'destructive devices', even the NRA supports regulation of those friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #184

Nonsense. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #192

They are the same- an attempt to criminalize what was previously legal... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #195

you do realize that the vast majority of Americans TheSarcastinator Feb 2014 #97

No poll have ever shown majority support for registration. NutmegYankee Feb 2014 #106

Background checks yes. Registration no. nt hack89 Feb 2014 #108

Oh, I think the Republican party needs the gun-hugger vote....... rdharma Feb 2014 #102

Silly laws like this do nothing but hurt us politically. nt Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #109

The only logical next step is to "ban teh gunz!" aikoaiko Feb 2014 #129

Many would like that, but most are too mealymouthed to admit it... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #132

Not going to happen, sadly. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #156

Well said. Even here on DU we are split on the issue. nt Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #163

Every single gun used in a crime began as a legal gun; every criminal's gun was once owned alcibiades_mystery Feb 2014 #140

So why is gun crime in England going up? Travis_0004 Feb 2014 #161

Um no... the people who didn't register are creating the "newly minted criminals" cui bono Feb 2014 #151

Meh. That's their problem, not mine. nt Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #171

So, y'all are cool with arresting all undocumented migrants? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #188

Or busting people for cannabis possession in states where it's still illegal? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #190

No! No documented death caused by cannabis. rdharma Feb 2014 #201

No! They aren't killing weapons. nt rdharma Feb 2014 #200

Gotta love situational ethics, the zealot's friend... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2014 #203

Huh? You're kidding! Right? rdharma Feb 2014 #207

I don't like laws that criminalize people with a stroke of a pen. Think of where it could lead. Populist_Prole Feb 2014 #210

"Yeah, I'm a pro-gun progressive." - That's all you needed to say, honestly. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #212