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In reply to the discussion: Connecticut has very likely created tens of thousands of newly minted criminals; 20-100k at least [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)121. -1 for trying to rewrite history. Rosa Parks owned guns and made no bones about it:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php/http:/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x337407
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/02/opinion/blow-rosa-parks-revisited.html?_r=0
"Rosa Parks, Revisited"
Meek, mild, and unarmed- even if they really weren't...
Rosa Parks was an armed. No surprise from this Cracker.
Tim Tyson, Visiting Professor at Duke Divinity School, did a little "myth-busting" on NPR's "On The Media" last year, saying this about the fabled civil rights leader Rosa Parks:
"There's a sense in which Mrs. Parks is very important to our post-civil rights racial narrative, because we really want a kind of sugar-coated civil rights movement that's about purity and interracial non-violence. And so we don't really want to meet the real Rosa Parks. We don't, for example, want to know that in the late 1960s, Rosa Parks became a black nationalist and a great admirer of Malcolm X. I met Rosa Parks at the funeral of Robert F. Williams, who had fought the Ku Klux Klan in North Carolina with a machine gun in the late 1950s and then fled to Cuba, and had been a kind of international revolutionary icon of black power. Ms. Parks delivered the eulogy at his funeral. She talks in her autobiography and says that she never believed in non-violence and that she was incapable of that herself, and that she kept guns in her home to protect her family. But we want a little old lady with tired feet. You may have noticed we don't have a lot of pacifist white heroes. We prefer our black people meek and mild, I think."
http://www.onthemedia.org/story/132892-tabula-rosa/transcript/
Tim Tyson, Visiting Professor at Duke Divinity School, did a little "myth-busting" on NPR's "On The Media" last year, saying this about the fabled civil rights leader Rosa Parks:
"There's a sense in which Mrs. Parks is very important to our post-civil rights racial narrative, because we really want a kind of sugar-coated civil rights movement that's about purity and interracial non-violence. And so we don't really want to meet the real Rosa Parks. We don't, for example, want to know that in the late 1960s, Rosa Parks became a black nationalist and a great admirer of Malcolm X. I met Rosa Parks at the funeral of Robert F. Williams, who had fought the Ku Klux Klan in North Carolina with a machine gun in the late 1950s and then fled to Cuba, and had been a kind of international revolutionary icon of black power. Ms. Parks delivered the eulogy at his funeral. She talks in her autobiography and says that she never believed in non-violence and that she was incapable of that herself, and that she kept guns in her home to protect her family. But we want a little old lady with tired feet. You may have noticed we don't have a lot of pacifist white heroes. We prefer our black people meek and mild, I think."
http://www.onthemedia.org/story/132892-tabula-rosa/transcript/
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/02/opinion/blow-rosa-parks-revisited.html?_r=0
"Rosa Parks, Revisited"
...On the verge of the 100th anniversary of her birth this Monday comes a fascinating new book, The Rebellious Life of Mrs. Rosa Parks, by Jeanne Theoharis, a Brooklyn College professor. It argues that the romanticized, childrens-book story of a meek seamstress with aching feet who just happened into history in a moment of uncalculated resistance is pure mythology.
As Theoharis points out, Rosas family sought to teach her a controlled anger, a survival strategy that balanced compliance with militancy.
Parks was mostly raised by her grandparents. Her grandfather, a follower of Marcus Garvey, often sat vigil on the porch with a rifle in case the Klan came. She sometimes sat with him because, as the book says she put it, I wanted to see him kill a Ku Kluxer....
...Rosa married Raymond Parks, a civil rights activist who sometimes carried a gun and who impressed her because, she said, he refused to be intimidated by white people.
As Theoharis points out, Rosas family sought to teach her a controlled anger, a survival strategy that balanced compliance with militancy.
Parks was mostly raised by her grandparents. Her grandfather, a follower of Marcus Garvey, often sat vigil on the porch with a rifle in case the Klan came. She sometimes sat with him because, as the book says she put it, I wanted to see him kill a Ku Kluxer....
...Rosa married Raymond Parks, a civil rights activist who sometimes carried a gun and who impressed her because, she said, he refused to be intimidated by white people.
Meek, mild, and unarmed- even if they really weren't...
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Connecticut has very likely created tens of thousands of newly minted criminals; 20-100k at least [View all]
The Straight Story
Feb 2014
OP
They didn't outlaw guns for now. That doesn't mean they will not in the future. (n/t)
spin
Feb 2014
#204
No - there is no political will or public sentiment in America to confiscate guns
hack89
Feb 2014
#52
I think the difference here is that they think the registration of a gun is to track the person
Packerowner740
Feb 2014
#58
How many people would have been killed by the AR-15 equipped mass murderers .............
rdharma
Feb 2014
#84
So explain how registration would have prevented those crimes. Come on, you can do it.
hack89
Feb 2014
#86
Knew you couldn't. Sandy Hook is particularly difficult to explain, isn't it? nt
hack89
Feb 2014
#99
Yes! Do you think the person who sold him this AR-15 would have done it........
rdharma
Feb 2014
#110
Put the sporting stock on it and it's not scary nor dangerous anymore. problem solved.
NM_Birder
Feb 2014
#87
"registration doesn't prevent criminal use of guns...make the guns used in crime easier to track"
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2014
#158
Tell me, how do they track the FFL records. Is there a central/easily retrievable repository?
rdharma
Feb 2014
#194
Obama will never confiscate firearms even though he has a pen and a telephone. ...
spin
Feb 2014
#206
Whatever it was...... it sure didn't save that "responsible" gun owner...........
rdharma
Feb 2014
#142
change the stock to a sporting model... POOF.. it's no longer an "assault" weapon
NM_Birder
Feb 2014
#85
Do you actually have a point you can articulate, or just silly innuendo?
Donald Ian Rankin
Feb 2014
#81
Guns kill 30,000 people a year, and your mocking those who try to tackle that?
Donald Ian Rankin
Feb 2014
#147
If an attempt to tackle gun crime is poorly thought out, it SHOULD be mocked
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#185
Yes, but it should be mocked for being inadequate, not excessive. N.T.
Donald Ian Rankin
Feb 2014
#193
Fighting gun crime by making what was legal and harmed none a crime...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#196
You *are* aware that guns harm no one without human intervention, no?
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#199
I said *rifles*, which are indeed rarely used in crime- so sayeth the Feds
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#215
You know what's really ridiculous - to the point of being beyond parody?
Donald Ian Rankin
Feb 2014
#113
More incremental criminalization, 'tho they're reluctant to actually admit it...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#120
You're excused, then. I was referring more to our homegrown prohibitionists
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#150
And how does that compare to the US in the same period? Your attempt at a point fails.
stevenleser
Feb 2014
#211
From the OP, anywhere from 50, 000 to 350,000 weapons -- in this 1 state -- remain unregistered
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2014
#159
Of course! What Rosa Parks did is exactly like some RW gun-hugger breaking the law!
rdharma
Feb 2014
#67
Just another gun fancier feeling "discriminated" against, and willing to use real civil rights
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#73
Huh??? The only bigots are the gun-owners themselves. They were and still are
madinmaryland
Feb 2014
#104
-1 for trying to rewrite history. Rosa Parks owned guns and made no bones about it:
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#121
No. The fact she had guns doesn't mean comparing Rosa Parks and the civil rights movement
kcr
Feb 2014
#123
Ms. Parks fought for the Fourteenth Amendment rights of all, and sometimes exercised...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#124
Just because you claim something infringing on a constitutional right doesn't make it so.
kcr
Feb 2014
#127
Umm, the DU cite was from 2010, long before Nugent ever mentioned her
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#128
You say "No associational fallacy about it." and continue talking about Nugent...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#138
No, I pretty much said to feel free to believe the crappy right wing nutty talking point
kcr
Feb 2014
#139
Nugent is an ignoramous who didn't know Parks was pretty hard Left...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#152
What's MY excuse? I think you're confused. I'm not the one who buys the idiot talking point.
kcr
Feb 2014
#162
Sorry, but that's how gun control works. And don't most of us want gun control?
Nye Bevan
Feb 2014
#42
Ha. So gun owners aren't as "law-abiding" as they try to tell us. Are you really surprised?
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#53
Women don't use the "I'm law-abiding" ruse. But nice try. Fact is, gun fanciers are
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#56
I did not deflect. His question had nothing to do with issue. Abortions and gunz are hardly similar
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#69
I'm not sure any of those incidents required a gun, but gun fanciers do think it's the only way to
Hoyt
Feb 2014
#169
"...gun fanciers do think it's the only way...". More telepsychology, Hoyt?
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#197
That would have been a snappy reply if that was what he had actually said
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#125
Gun ownership should not be a right, any more than driving a car is.
Donald Ian Rankin
Feb 2014
#155
Hardly hyperbole- there's quite a few that would like to go all Harry J. Anslinger on guns
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#130
Nail bombs are 'destructive devices', even the NRA supports regulation of those
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#184
They are the same- an attempt to criminalize what was previously legal...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#195
Many would like that, but most are too mealymouthed to admit it...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#132
Every single gun used in a crime began as a legal gun; every criminal's gun was once owned
alcibiades_mystery
Feb 2014
#140
Um no... the people who didn't register are creating the "newly minted criminals"
cui bono
Feb 2014
#151
Or busting people for cannabis possession in states where it's still illegal?
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2014
#190
I don't like laws that criminalize people with a stroke of a pen. Think of where it could lead.
Populist_Prole
Feb 2014
#210
"Yeah, I'm a pro-gun progressive." - That's all you needed to say, honestly.
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#212