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Oh I think thats absolutely insane. But the OP missed the point. Chris Hayes got it right though.
phleshdef
Jan 2014
#6
Our government doesn't give half a shit what other governments do to their own people
yurbud
Jan 2014
#601
I read recently that 18 veterans of these horrendous, WRONG, wars commit suicide in this country
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#59
Odd, that makes two people less interested in the suicide rate among veterans
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#254
Thank you. The information on the breakfasts had just been sent to me by a Veteran.
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#497
I believe I already provided you with that information. Yes, I was misinformed and corrected it
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#496
Would you like some information on the suicide rate among the troops which was my
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#259
We just lost a veteran also. You wanted to play a game, and it disgusted me, sorry.
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#277
No, you're not sorry for any pain and harm that happened to me or my family which I deliberately
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#291
Standing up for the troops has always been a 'disgusting run' to those who have supported
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#544
Yuck indeed. Yuck to war, yuck to lies about war. Yuck to wars for profit, yuck to sending
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#613
You respond to news of her brother's suicide by claiming she won a "tiny Internet game?"
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#374
Wow. Can't address what I say so you twist it all up to try to make me have said
cui bono
Jan 2014
#299
That's the tactic. Bvar posted wmws's description of internet deflection tactics below and what
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#559
Oh, and your moral judgment of me after you incorrectly decided what I thought was fine with you.
cui bono
Jan 2014
#576
"because you thought it more important to defend an anonymous Internet poster than show compassion
cui bono
Jan 2014
#581
First of all, I edited my post while you were responding because I can see what you're saying
cui bono
Jan 2014
#584
I have asked you several times now to stop following me around this forum and using your
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#630
I expect you will admonish the poster who just attacked my post regarding the veterans I mentioned
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#435
You're missing what she was referring to then. She's not talking about the subject matter,
cui bono
Jan 2014
#563
Just because someone loses a brother to suicide and mentions it in a long winded post
cui bono
Jan 2014
#570
Worked on the 08 and 2012 elections but always knew that he will only do as...
axollot
Jan 2014
#664
I'm really sorry you were treated that way. I know that several years ago we learned that the troops
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#545
It's astonishing and it isn't just recent, it goes back several years apparently. I was
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#446
Lots of young people "volunteer" without knowing anything about what they're getting themselves
El_Johns
Jan 2014
#162
Lots of people volunteer because that is the only way they see to get out of poverty.
Sirveri
Jan 2014
#218
His take is very rational and an empathetic person. I can see that those that can justify
rhett o rick
Jan 2014
#21
Going to war in any of those countries would have been completely unjustified in the first place
quinnox
Jan 2014
#83
because the "Last thing" one would want to do is "give him any credit"
VanillaRhapsody
Jan 2014
#244
Do you ever give any thought to the thousands of our troops who are still dying
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#272
We WERE in Libya and are behind the scenes in Egypt and Syria using our 'proxy' armies
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#100
No, Bush would have WANTED to go to Syria, there is no question about that, but the world
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#266
if you didn't watch the SOTU last night....you have no reason to take a position
VanillaRhapsody
Jan 2014
#459
I didn't see you point out any hypocrisy. Nor did I see anyone 'just accepting someone else's
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#546
Lol, you sound frustrated. Can't say I blame you. If I realized that a vast majority of
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#555
Oh goody...here comes page seven in the manual...when you accuse me of hysterics
VanillaRhapsody
Jan 2014
#561
Why, has that happened to you a lot? You seem to have a lot of bad experiences
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#564
This soldier voluntarily went back time and again. I think the OP is very wrong, also.
secondwind
Jan 2014
#482
You didn't get the reason???? Because we have idiots who want war with Iran....
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#35
Ah, don't let it get you down, Ms. Not everyone is willing to cheer the product of endless war.
morningfog
Jan 2014
#91
Neither you, nor the OP could be bothered to use the name of the soldier you are so outraged about.
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#102
Again--neither you, nor the OP could be bothered to use Sgt. Remsburg's name or rank in your pursuit
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#136
So you didn't actually watch the SOTU? How did you.miss his name and rank, then?
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#317
Didn't even have to look, I knew it was you. You should be ashamed of using the troops
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#443
Pointing out that neither you, nor the OP could be bothered to use the name of the soldier
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#370
Most people don't engage I've noticed. You're right, never ending repetitive 'argle bargle'.
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#549
It worked. We should be ashamed of war. We should be ashamed of 10 deployments.We should be ashamed.
The Wielding Truth
Jan 2014
#393
I see a lot of progressives here, whom I respect, saying the same things that did see the speech
quinnox
Jan 2014
#249
Yeah....right...I see ALOT of the same people who all claim not to have seen it...
VanillaRhapsody
Jan 2014
#252
he's trying to make a point that the saber-rattlers dont want to hear.
BlancheSplanchnik
Jan 2014
#378
I think the point is missed here. President Obama had a personal relationship with that soldier.
kelliekat44
Jan 2014
#15
I have nothing to add. You said it well. Fuck those that use war for profit or political gain.
rhett o rick
Jan 2014
#24
Really? Joe Biden, Elijah Cummings, Nancy Pelosi, John Lewis, Michelle Obama, Dr. Biden, John Kerry
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#26
Benefit??? What benefit did you or that soldier get? The point your President made was that
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#53
"My favorites are all the people commenting who didn't even bother to watch it. Ridiculous."
Number23
Jan 2014
#248
I must have missed the part when he said we were pulling all the troops out of Afghanistan
dflprincess
Jan 2014
#80
+1 brush. In my 60+ years I have never heard a POTUS say that, ever. It's major...
Hekate
Jan 2014
#456
Thank you....it's as if the OP didn't hear any of the remarks on Iran, and simply refused to
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#41
Note that the OP couldn't be bothered to learn the name of the soldier he was outraged over, either.
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#116
I've supported POTUS since the beginning but I have to agree and have nothing to add. nt
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#36
You're comparing accidentally mistargeting a warship in the middle of a desperate war for survival..
ConservativeDemocrat
Jan 2014
#599
I get it - as a (Neo)Conservative Democrat, you like it when the U.S. flexes its military muscle.
Maedhros
Jan 2014
#623
Agreed. I didn't mean to imply anyone who was against the wars should feel guilt.
Chiquitita
Jan 2014
#349
Honoring this man's sense of duty and his sacrifice was the right thing to do,
TwilightGardener
Jan 2014
#42
No. Nobody was using him. His Commander-in-Chief asked him to come--and
TwilightGardener
Jan 2014
#84
No, people are attempting to use the President honoring him as a prop to criticize.
phleshdef
Jan 2014
#204
He's not a poster boy for anything. He's a man who answered the call, and served, and
TwilightGardener
Jan 2014
#108
I'm sorry that it happened to your family. Not everyone experiences things the same way,
TwilightGardener
Jan 2014
#179
That was exactly the point, that this was a fucked up war that needs to be stopped.
uppityperson
Jan 2014
#239
Exactly. To me, it said, "Here's the fucking meat grinder you all happily put these soldiers through
kysrsoze
Jan 2014
#66
I'm old enough to remember what happened to Vietnam veterans when they returned home.
blue neen
Jan 2014
#62
Thank you, and you are correct, we were applauding him ... unfortunately ,,,
MindMover
Jan 2014
#104
Not only saw it happen, but was there when one of the spitters got his jaw busted ...
MindMover
Jan 2014
#234
Sorry, I refuse to deny and further dishonor those vets. From one who was there:
blue neen
Jan 2014
#419
Wow said person been here since 2001 and JUST started posting, you should feel honored!
Rex
Jan 2014
#137
Set the record straight about what? Votes in the US Senate? Or, speeches as a State Senator in IL?
cherokeeprogressive
Jan 2014
#171
He's also on record for increasing the SS cap, & advocating against mandated insurance. -nt
CrispyQ
Jan 2014
#397
And that was EXACTLY the point that was made. EXACTLY. Too bad some of us missed it. nt
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#78
I saw the speech you did. And I saw a family that wanted to be there and didn't feel used.
pnwmom
Jan 2014
#85
Subtle to whom? The drunk Speaker, perhaps. The utterly clueless, maybe. But to the rest of us,
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#112
It's amazing--a whole OP, and we can't be bothered to use the name or rank of the person we are
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#147
"people might mistake the whole charade for war porn" - Yes, people who didn't pay attention
NYC Liberal
Jan 2014
#114
Fuckin Will. Would your kindly post a freaking link to the part that I missed.
NYC_SKP
Jan 2014
#115
You couldn't be bothered to use the soldier's name or rank in your OP. Perhaps, in your outrage,
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#140
And shit???? Expecting you to actually use the name of the person you are outraged about
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#158
Will couldn't be bothered to use his name or rank in the OP. Which isn't something I would accept
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#161
Will wasn't USING the soldier to make his point. That would be disrespectful.
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#288
Hey Sabrina...upthread Snopes disproved the RW talking point you posted about
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#318
Revealing her source of her claim could prove pretty interesting. The use of RW
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#337
You should be ashamed of yourself for using the troops for political purposes.
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#447
This is why I don't watch SOTU speeches. Every single president, it doesn't matter who it is
liberal_at_heart
Jan 2014
#146
Many? It is a tiny amount of the posters in this thread - but don't let reality stop you.
Rex
Jan 2014
#198
The point most people got? 'We have to continually FIGHT for our 'freedoms'.
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#502
what is this bullshit? PBO is not free to whip out the "EFFIN'" and ""SCUMBASTARDS"
BlancheSplanchnik
Jan 2014
#160
oh, we should just forget that he bluntly said the sexist pay gap is wrong?
BlancheSplanchnik
Jan 2014
#216
I felt like I was watching a scene from the Hunger Games when they were clapping for that soldier .
4edwards
Jan 2014
#174
Me too. A lot of blood has been spilled so politicians could look like a "Strong leader".
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jan 2014
#666
In other words, there is no more Unrec to offset the Recs. That is all that signifies.
Hekate
Jan 2014
#214
You're welcome! Check out the jury results on my post for another well needed chuckle
Number23
Jan 2014
#465
The entirety of what Obama actually said after the applause for Cory:
A-Schwarzenegger
Jan 2014
#224
Iraq was not 'for our freedom'! Iraq was a lie as everyone surely knows by now.
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#262
Obama never said Iraq was for freedom, his POINT was to honor those the war devastated.
SunSeeker
Jan 2014
#275
Exactly, he tied 'our freedoms' to the troops' sacrifices and that is an outright lie.
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#661
This implies tha Afghanistan was somehow vital to our freedom and democracy, but the truth is
grahamhgreen
Jan 2014
#532
Obama NEVER said Iraq was about freedom. He always said it was a mistake and stupid.
SunSeeker
Jan 2014
#289
Iraq was NOT a mistake. It was a LIE that was supposed to last 'months, weeks maybe'. It is a CRIME
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#293
Sigh! If an elected official is more stupid than the average voter who begged them not to believe
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#301
BS. He has said in earlier speeches that America gave Iraq a chance for freedom.
Vattel
Jan 2014
#645
Trifecta: You lie AND link to a right wing rag AND it doesn't even support your claim.
SunSeeker
Feb 2014
#673
If you Googled the transcript, you wouldn't get a lying RW article with no transcript.
SunSeeker
Feb 2014
#681
The quote I used wasn't truncated. It was the full quote you used to defend your silly position.
Vattel
Feb 2014
#687
Wrong again. He said our soldiers' "sacrifices" gave Iraq the chance at self-determination.
Vattel
Feb 2014
#689
I think you might have been so discouraged (understandably) that you misinterpreted a
anAustralianobserver
Jan 2014
#246
I wonder if there would have been as much outrage from Will and his contingency...
llmart
Jan 2014
#514
It was in the context of ending 'permanent war' policies - it was his 10th deployment.
blm
Jan 2014
#365
Correct. This wasn't that hard. A. This is what war does. B. Let's stop them now. C. This soldier
stevenleser
Feb 2014
#674
WilliamPitt Hates Obama... in other news, bears do something that stinks really bad in wooded areas
uponit7771
Jan 2014
#386
Would you rather wounded soldiers be hidden away as to not offend your tender sensibilities?
Politicub
Jan 2014
#413
when you look at the faces of the republican side and their smiles...I see your point
Demonaut
Jan 2014
#424
Back in the Vietnam era, we got more real war coverage. Under Reagan and Bush-I,
struggle4progress
Jan 2014
#460
Thirteen years of reading you and you have never been more correct or to the point.
CBGLuthier
Jan 2014
#464
He changed the same couple lines twice---- (ruined soldiers didn't sound so good)
snooper2
Jan 2014
#479
That was my take too, especially and pointedly "10 deployments". Perhaps that was the point.
txwhitedove
Jan 2014
#500
"Tough on terra'", "Real Leader", political PR like it was in Vietnam.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jan 2014
#657
Wow, over 300 recommends, and its driving a certain very devoted segment crazy
quinnox
Jan 2014
#587
In 601 posts I counted 4 jury hides and 5 self deletes. You call this a massacre?
Hekate
Jan 2014
#605