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In reply to the discussion: I know, I suck. But a serious question: [View all]Tigerram
(13 posts)94. tigerram
Well your surprised really !! Lying has been around a long long time..I believe it was a Snake that started it..Or when the First Politician moved his Lips..Just sayin ..
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IF he were caught in a Lie before Congress...you can BET the Republican run House would
VanillaRhapsody
Jan 2014
#1
Yes...complicated...you know....not exactly black and white...kinda grey...
VanillaRhapsody
Jan 2014
#103
HE admitted lying. There is no doubt that he lied. He has a boss, he should be fired, but he hasn't
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#91
Its not? They why isn't he up on charges for lying to a Republican Congress?
VanillaRhapsody
Jan 2014
#27
IF YOUR contention were absolutely true as you contend....then he would
VanillaRhapsody
Jan 2014
#33
If the issue would harm the military and not the civil government, the Republicans would allow
JDPriestly
Jan 2014
#51
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China....do YOU seriously think
VanillaRhapsody
Jan 2014
#88
The Republican Party, like YOU, approves of the ubiquitous, pervasive surveillance state.
Maedhros
Jan 2014
#97
The only posts I ever see from you are bashing critics of either the NSA or drone murder.
Maedhros
Jan 2014
#131
Of for gawdsake! The man knew the truth yet replied in what he says was "the least untruthful" way.
delrem
Jan 2014
#135
You follow a strange logic. He isnt up on charges for lying to a Republican Congress
rhett o rick
Jan 2014
#124
NO you should know better...you think Republicans would miss THAT chance
VanillaRhapsody
Jan 2014
#48
It's pointless discussing anything with a person who insists on rejecting uncontested facts. /nt
Marr
Jan 2014
#63
Only four senators - total - voted against Obama's nominee for US Trade Rep last year
MannyGoldstein
Jan 2014
#81
NO as I said...if it WERE not in DISPUTE ....he would be up on charges...
VanillaRhapsody
Jan 2014
#211
why would you ever believe the government when it talks about its spy program? nt
geek tragedy
Jan 2014
#4
'Im not able to answer that question for national security reasons, but...
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2014
#31
Nope. No handcuffs for refusing to tell a lie. You're right that this sort of non-answer
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2014
#41
No, he had a choice between an honest answer that did not reveal classified info and lying.
merrily
Jan 2014
#130
As I explained before, the normal, legal thing to do in that situation is to ask to discuss the matt
JDPriestly
Jan 2014
#102
There is a chance that the Supreme Court will rule that the facts in any case involving the metadata
JDPriestly
Jan 2014
#147
He could have immediately asked that the discussion continue in a closed session.
JDPriestly
Jan 2014
#55
For all realistic purposes, it was Wyden who revealed classified information during that hearing.
merrily
Jan 2014
#138
Then we should let a court decide as you suggest in your answer, otherwise,
grahamhgreen
Jan 2014
#189
It's like saying if a bank robber answers no to a robbery he committed that he should not be
grahamhgreen
Jan 2014
#265
So you are rationalizing his lying. Interesting who all comes to his defense. nm
rhett o rick
Jan 2014
#125
You are trying to justify his lies. He later admitted he lied. How different is that
rhett o rick
Jan 2014
#227
Of course Clapper is part of the authoritarian power structure and Snowden is merely
rhett o rick
Jan 2014
#245
Or fourth possibility...Clapper didn't answer correctly....because he hadn't seen them
VanillaRhapsody
Jan 2014
#37
Wow, what lengths some go to to defend this conservative authoritarian that is the
rhett o rick
Jan 2014
#126
He is silent on our government's lying/fabricating evidence trails to arrest Americans
woo me with science
Jan 2014
#14
Oh lordy....you certainly suck at civics! If Clapper lied to Congress, then the CONGRESS needs to
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#24
The head of the IRS wasn't fired, Manny, except in FoxNoozland. He retired. So why didn't Wyden
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#47
Exactly, Manny, and thank you proving my point. Miller resigned and retired. Federal employees
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#64
No...Fox News was upset that he wasn't fired...but allowed to retire as planned...
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#174
Nonsense..... cite the federal reg that says there's a term limit to an Acting Director of the IRS.
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#179
You are not getting one. I just made you prove my point that Miller was retiring, anyway,
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#212
I know...his resignation and his retirement date were exactly the same, and
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#164
Well, if progressive heroes like Wyden prefer to spend their political chits
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#180
Or maybe Wyden realized that was a question he wasn't supposed to ask during the
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#165
Exactly ... and if Wyden is fine with it, why isn't Manny calling him out too?
JoePhilly
Jan 2014
#183
r.e. the nevermind part: the OP mentioned that as a possibility, then pulled back.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2014
#203
Like a bankster owned police agency commissined by banksters to keep the government
Zorra
Jan 2014
#95
I think mutual orchestrations for mutual political ends overlook lying. We CAN'T believe it.
ancianita
Jan 2014
#78
Manny, the President isn't involved with a charge of contempt of Congress or
Agnosticsherbet
Jan 2014
#79
"It is like they want to bitch about it but don't want to do anything about it."
MrMickeysMom
Jan 2014
#162
I think Congress doesn't give a damn if the guy lied. I think it is politics and power.
Agnosticsherbet
Jan 2014
#221
Obama is Clappers boss, so he could fire him. Clapper lied to to Congress so they
neverforget
Jan 2014
#129
The truth is that no one in Congress considers it 'lying' when intelligence secrets are involved.
randome
Jan 2014
#194
Randome, you're wrong. Ron Wyden is a member of congress, and he knows he was lied to.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2014
#195
I saw that. It won't be enough. Obama quashed Occupy and he is a slave to the NSA.
randome
Jan 2014
#178
The concern is that Obama will tell us "the least untruthful" things that he wants to
MannyGoldstein
Jan 2014
#172
Fine. Don't trust anyone. Continue to be paranoid even when you get what you asked for.
randome
Jan 2014
#177
Like four year olds interpret it, "lie" means say something I don't agree with
treestar
Jan 2014
#198
I'm not really sure that the matter of any of us "believing" what is said
NorthCarolina
Jan 2014
#242
I truly wish the President would tell us why the the NSA thing is so good and important.
marble falls
Jan 2014
#258