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In reply to the discussion: Bob Graham speaking out about 9/11 again. Also 2 archived articles Saudi flights after 9/11 [View all]Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)104. My ONLY problem with Bernie is his age.
He will be 75 in 2016. Certainly there have been leaders that old, but the US Presidency (and even campaigning for it) is a grueling ordeal. And we really need a 2-term President to even begin righting the course. He would be 83 upon leaving office.
Nevertheless, I would welcome a Bernie Primary candidacy in 2016 as a way of opening the "Overton Window" on the left.
And I absolutely agree with you that a few speeches alone do not make for a trustworthy candidate. God knows, if he had lived up to the promise of his speeches, most of us would be trying to clone Obama.
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Bob Graham speaking out about 9/11 again. Also 2 archived articles Saudi flights after 9/11 [View all]
madfloridian
Dec 2013
OP
I remember when Bob Graham's opinions on what happened after 9/11 were of the utmost importance to
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#55
One of the families flying was the bin Laden family which had very close ties with the Bush family.
Thinkingabout
Dec 2013
#7
And airc, two of those who were flown out had been wanted for questioning by the FBI.
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#56
W's TANG buddy James Bath brought the bin Ladens in as investors in "Arbusto", W's oil company
Ace Acme
Dec 2013
#69
Yep, all friends of Bush, there is lots to these stories all leading back to Bush.
Thinkingabout
Dec 2013
#73
I voted for him in Florida. I hoped that Kerry would choose him as a VP running mate.
NBachers
Dec 2013
#102
You are correct, CherokeeDem. I did some research on this in 2004. You are correct.
JDPriestly
Dec 2013
#47
I can't speak for madflo but I do believe she's posted it because of Micheal Moore's comments
riderinthestorm
Dec 2013
#11
Yes, and Graham's recent interviews as well. MM is all over it at his twitter feed.
madfloridian
Dec 2013
#13
There are posts and interviews that inspired this. No, it is not news. But it should be.
madfloridian
Dec 2013
#12
Oh yes it is! It's BIG news. And it's going to get BIGGER. Fast, I hope. I want Bush and Cheney
ChisolmTrailDem
Dec 2013
#24
And those of us, including Bob Graham, were all told to shut up about it. I remember thinking that
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#94
I was so disappointed that Justice Rehnquist died before he could be held accountable
Ace Acme
Dec 2013
#79
I lost all respect for Hitchens at that time and never read anything from him
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#96
Or maybe even he realizes that no one is protected from the Bush/Cheney lies and crimes and
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#99
You may have already read this, but just in case..I think you'll find it of relevance.
Jefferson23
Dec 2013
#19
K&R + Wayback Machine link to 2001 Tampa Trib article "Phantom Flight from Florida"
alp227
Dec 2013
#21
It turns out that they fly in a couple of times a year for the Keeneland thoroughbred auctions...
George II
Dec 2013
#64
I figure that the Tampa Tribune, the St Pete Times, and esp Bob Graham...are the real thing.
madfloridian
Dec 2013
#33
At the end of the Graham interview, 1st link..he is very upset at the secrets he must keep.
madfloridian
Dec 2013
#46
Al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar were both known al Qaeda operatives, both known to be inside the USA.
Ace Acme
Dec 2013
#77
At 18:30 into Graham's interview. "Is the US now such a servile nation...that we must capitulate..
madfloridian
Dec 2013
#45
Graham's novel Keys to the Kingdom written as way to expose some knowledge...
madfloridian
Dec 2013
#50
Wow, what a brilliant suggestion from Nye, to get around all the redacting and cover ups, to write
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#93
It was made known before the 2004 election. But the propaganda machine, otherwise known as the MSM
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#59
You say you wont support her, but the Powers To Be are very clever. They will run Attila the Hun on
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#66
I'm getting to the point where i think tht game could be played 2 ways.
Jackpine Radical
Dec 2013
#78
You are not alone. During the Bush lost decade the conservatives turned the
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#82
but given that good conscience can, easily or less so, be manipulated by brilliant speeches
BelgianMadCow
Dec 2013
#91
No one ever has to do anything they do not want to do. And no, I don't care if they run Atilla the
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#95
I couldn't agree more. It's way past time to start holding them accountable for their votes.
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#100
OK What's up? The Washington Times has an article about 9/11 as well. Why all of a sudden?
madfloridian
Dec 2013
#65
Interesting. I will look for it. I wondered why Murdoch would be publishing this also.
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#101
The NSA and FBI had enough intelligence data to stop 9/11. Why didnt they? nm
rhett o rick
Dec 2013
#67
I used to get into argument with Wingers claiming it had been debunked,...because Hannity said so.
Spitfire of ATJ
Dec 2013
#68
Yes, the Saudis are arming thugs to murder people in Syria. They were involved in Libya too.
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#106
Graham's duty is to support the Constitution and the People, not some one that he gave
SDjack
Dec 2013
#109
Those Saudi men were flying over the US right after 9/11, looking for cheap-to-buy real estate,
blkmusclmachine
Dec 2013
#112