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JDPriestly

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61. Some links.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 05:58 PM
Dec 2013

Why Were Saudi Passengers Flown Out of the Country After 9-11?
by Margie Burns

Is the White House really going to pretend that five skyjackers, including the fervently devout Atta, went to Vegas--separately and together at different times--only to fit in a little gambling? And what about those Saudi Royals who were in Las Vegas on 9/11--and allowed to leave the US?

APRIL 9, 2004--Days after September 11, 2001, with commercial flights grounded throughout the United States, the Bush administration allowed select commercial jets to fly out of the country. Four manifests from these flights have been released by Craig Unger, author of the nonfiction bestseller House of Bush, House of Saud. The passenger lists are posted online.

A September 13 flight from Lexington KY to London carried 15 passengers including eight Saudis; a Las Vegas-to-Switzerland flight the next day carried seven Saudis; a "VIP flight" from New York to Paris on September 22 carried 12 passengers including four Saudis; and another Las Vegas-to-Paris VIP flight on September 24 carried 24 passengers including 11 Saudis. Some individuals who jetted away would have been "persons of interest" in any traditional investigation, and others had round-the-clock knowledge of them.

Former Clinton and Bush counterterrorism adviser Richard Clarke was asked about the flights at the April 8 hearing of the 9-11 Commission. Clarke responded that "someone" in the Saudi embassy had requested that some persons be allowed to fly out and that he refused, kicking the request over to the FBI, which permitted them.

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http://baltimorechronicle.com/040904SaudiCIA.shtml

WASHINGTON - April 4, 2004 -- Posted 07:45 ET -- TomFlocco.com -- A copy of a previously unpublished manifest, obtained late Thursday night and dated September 15, 2001, provides evidence of a private Boeing-727 Saudi flight from Lexington, Kentucky to London. But the names on the manifest raise serious questions about FBI policies and procedures related to witness identification, criminal investigations and obstruction of justice.

Ahmad A. M. Alhazmi, 20, (Saudi passport no. B805019) is listed on the manifest with Prince Sultan bin Fahad bin Salman bin Abdulaziz, 19, (Saudi passport no. 406 A), son of Saudi defense minister Crown Prince Abdullah bin Abdulaziz.

The name Alhazmi and its ties to laundered Riggs Bank cashiers checks may become a subject of interest when National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice testifies later this week--especially since young Ahmad Alhazmi has the same last name as Nawaf Alhazmi, one of the terrorists identified as an alleged hijacker of American Airlines flight 77.

http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/ManifestRaisesQues.htm

The Book of Bush (Alterman and Greene) and an article by Craig Unger that I show in my records as published by the LA Times in April 2004 entitled After 9/11: the Saudis Who Slipped Away might be helpful. Unger I believe wrote things for Vanity Fair.

Here is another link. I don't know how reliable it is, but it lists flight numbers.

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/9/11_flight_passenger_numbers

BUT. . . full disclosure:

The 9/11 Commission also expanded on the following points in footnotes to the section of the report quoted above:
During the morning of September 11, the FAA suspended all nonemergency air activity in the national airspace. While the national airspace was closed, decisions to allow aircraft to fly were made by the FAA working with the Department of Defense, Department of State, U.S. Secret Service, and the FBI. The Department of Transportation reopened the national airspace to U.S. carriers effective 11:00 A.M. on September 13, 2001, for flights out of or into airports that had implemented the FAA's new security requirements.

After the airspace reopened, nine chartered flights with 160 people, mostly Saudi nationals, departed from the United States between September 14 and 24. In addition, one Saudi government flight, containing the Saudi deputy defense minister and other members of an official Saudi delegation, departed Newark Airport on September 14. Every airport involved in these Saudi flights was open when the flight departed, and no inappropriate actions were taken to allow those flights to depart.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flights.asp

I remember reading an item in a Tampa newspaper in 2004 discussing the flight, but I cannot find a reference to it now. Did a flight occur that was covered up? Or, did the flight occur, but after planes were generally cleared for flight in the US?

I don't know. The research I did in 2004 had me convinced that the flights occurred. I wasn't there, however, so I really don't know for sure.

Proud to be the first to K&R this, madfloridian! riderinthestorm Dec 2013 #1
Thank you. Michael Moore, Bob Graham.. I thank them for their honesty. madfloridian Dec 2013 #3
I remember when Bob Graham's opinions on what happened after 9/11 were of the utmost importance to sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #55
Exactly... a great Democrat who should have been President JCMach1 Dec 2013 #83
Agreed...Reinvestigate 911 billhicks76 Dec 2013 #113
k&r... spanone Dec 2013 #2
Appreciated... madfloridian Dec 2013 #4
important post!!! spanone Dec 2013 #6
The official explanation: KamaAina Dec 2013 #5
We know nothing, we found nothing... madfloridian Dec 2013 #14
Nice post, Schultz! KamaAina Dec 2013 #15
Ha...was just going to post this snip. madfloridian Dec 2013 #16
Some links. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #61
One of the families flying was the bin Laden family which had very close ties with the Bush family. Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #7
I had forgotten that. madfloridian Dec 2013 #41
And airc, two of those who were flown out had been wanted for questioning by the FBI. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #56
W's TANG buddy James Bath brought the bin Ladens in as investors in "Arbusto", W's oil company Ace Acme Dec 2013 #69
Yep, all friends of Bush, there is lots to these stories all leading back to Bush. Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #73
When I lived in Miami... CherokeeDem Dec 2013 #8
"a tiny bit eccentric, but it is part of his charm" I agree. madfloridian Dec 2013 #9
I voted for him in Florida. I hoped that Kerry would choose him as a VP running mate. NBachers Dec 2013 #102
You are correct, CherokeeDem. I did some research on this in 2004. You are correct. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #47
This is not new news. Skidmore Dec 2013 #10
I can't speak for madflo but I do believe she's posted it because of Micheal Moore's comments riderinthestorm Dec 2013 #11
Yes, and Graham's recent interviews as well. MM is all over it at his twitter feed. madfloridian Dec 2013 #13
There are posts and interviews that inspired this. No, it is not news. But it should be. madfloridian Dec 2013 #12
It's news to everyone who doesn't know it. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #75
That's true. madfloridian Dec 2013 #76
Oh yes it is! It's BIG news. And it's going to get BIGGER. Fast, I hope. I want Bush and Cheney ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2013 #24
My point was that this has been a known set of facts Skidmore Dec 2013 #30
Yes it has, and we've all been told to "look forward". Corruption Inc Dec 2013 #38
And those of us, including Bob Graham, were all told to shut up about it. I remember thinking that sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #94
I was so disappointed that Justice Rehnquist died before he could be held accountable Ace Acme Dec 2013 #79
It is to many people who were not paying attention at the time. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #57
Fahrenheit 9/11 Blew my Mind Ace Acme Dec 2013 #72
I lost all respect for Hitchens at that time and never read anything from him sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #96
Apparently Hitchens had an alcohol problem Ace Acme Dec 2013 #97
"Smirk." - xCommander AWOL Bush (R) & Intimate Buddy Bandar Bush (R) Berlum Dec 2013 #17
More about why I remembered the articles now. Strange bedfellows... madfloridian Dec 2013 #18
I think Murdoch is possibly doing several things with this story: CJCRANE Dec 2013 #63
Or maybe even he realizes that no one is protected from the Bush/Cheney lies and crimes and sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #99
You may have already read this, but just in case..I think you'll find it of relevance. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #19
Article in Vanity Fair dem in texas Dec 2013 #20
Was it this one? Found the link in a post above. madfloridian Dec 2013 #25
House of Bush, House of Saud BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #62
K&R + Wayback Machine link to 2001 Tampa Trib article "Phantom Flight from Florida" alp227 Dec 2013 #21
I keep forgetting about the Wayback Machine. madfloridian Dec 2013 #26
K&R! Thanks for furthering this! KoKo Dec 2013 #22
Bob Graham is no conspiracy theorist. His word is like gold. madfloridian Dec 2013 #23
There's a 4 Part interview with him, here: KoKo Dec 2013 #27
Thanks for that link. He's been a busy guy this month. madfloridian Dec 2013 #28
Bush the Elder, Carlisle and the CIA arranged this warrant46 Dec 2013 #29
A couple of inconsistencies - one may be a typo.... George II Dec 2013 #31
If you do a search on 747, bluegrass airport... madfloridian Dec 2013 #52
You're right - I just watched a video of one landing. Unbelievable since... George II Dec 2013 #54
I did see one like that. madfloridian Dec 2013 #58
It turns out that they fly in a couple of times a year for the Keeneland thoroughbred auctions... George II Dec 2013 #64
So. Holly_Hobby Dec 2013 #32
I figure that the Tampa Tribune, the St Pete Times, and esp Bob Graham...are the real thing. madfloridian Dec 2013 #33
Yes, and thank you Holly_Hobby Dec 2013 #44
I was told I was full o sit about this - the bin Laden Family Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #34
Hoping times are changing... madfloridian Dec 2013 #36
k/r Dawson Leery Dec 2013 #35
.... madfloridian Dec 2013 #37
What a disconnect noise Dec 2013 #39
At the end of the Graham interview, 1st link..he is very upset at the secrets he must keep. madfloridian Dec 2013 #46
Al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar were both known al Qaeda operatives, both known to be inside the USA. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #77
To date noise Dec 2013 #80
OIG interviews were recently declassified noise Dec 2013 #107
TRUTH comes into the light, FINALLY! What a weird week this one is. truedelphi Dec 2013 #40
+ 1 Berlum Dec 2013 #42
K & R AzDar Dec 2013 #43
At 18:30 into Graham's interview. "Is the US now such a servile nation...that we must capitulate.. madfloridian Dec 2013 #45
He's a fine man, elleng Dec 2013 #48
Politics and prose TomClash Dec 2013 #86
You've lived in DC area? elleng Dec 2013 #87
Briefly TomClash Dec 2013 #88
I was BORN in NYC, elleng Dec 2013 #89
9/11 heaven05 Dec 2013 #49
Graham's novel Keys to the Kingdom written as way to expose some knowledge... madfloridian Dec 2013 #50
Wow, what a brilliant suggestion from Nye, to get around all the redacting and cover ups, to write sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #93
Bob Graham is one of the good guys. stevenleser Dec 2013 #51
I have a little bit of a problem with this... WinstonSmith4740 Dec 2013 #53
It was made known before the 2004 election. But the propaganda machine, otherwise known as the MSM sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #59
You say you wont support her, but the Powers To Be are very clever. They will run Attila the Hun on rhett o rick Dec 2013 #66
I'm getting to the point where i think tht game could be played 2 ways. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #78
Howard Dean questioned the 9/11 Reports and the Voting Machines Ace Acme Dec 2013 #81
You are not alone. During the Bush lost decade the conservatives turned the rhett o rick Dec 2013 #82
but given that good conscience can, easily or less so, be manipulated by brilliant speeches BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #91
My ONLY problem with Bernie is his age. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #104
No one ever has to do anything they do not want to do. And no, I don't care if they run Atilla the sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #95
Hear, hear about Congress. Ace Acme Dec 2013 #98
I couldn't agree more. It's way past time to start holding them accountable for their votes. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #100
I enjoy your writing! Titonwan Dec 2013 #108
Thank you, that is a very nice thing to say. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #110
He often pointed out the wrongdoing. madfloridian Dec 2013 #60
OK What's up? The Washington Times has an article about 9/11 as well. Why all of a sudden? madfloridian Dec 2013 #65
E vent U all Y Berlum Dec 2013 #70
Pick a fight with the President TomClash Dec 2013 #85
Interesting. I will look for it. I wondered why Murdoch would be publishing this also. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #101
I remember that... madfloridian Dec 2013 #103
The NSA and FBI had enough intelligence data to stop 9/11. Why didnt they? nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #67
They were probably awarded with medals Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2013 #92
I used to get into argument with Wingers claiming it had been debunked,...because Hannity said so. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #68
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #71
More than welcome. madfloridian Dec 2013 #84
k & freakiun r! wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #74
What's a rec without a kick? BelgianMadCow Dec 2013 #90
Thanks for the post pjt7 Dec 2013 #105
Yes, the Saudis are arming thugs to murder people in Syria. They were involved in Libya too. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #106
Graham's duty is to support the Constitution and the People, not some one that he gave SDjack Dec 2013 #109
and a kick again! eom. wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #111
Those Saudi men were flying over the US right after 9/11, looking for cheap-to-buy real estate, blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #112
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