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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 05:06 PM Mar 2012

Dear President Obama, It's a clusterfuck and it's way past time to pack it in. [View all]

Honestly, do you think that we can "win" in Afghanistan? I'm not sure what winning there means to you but for the sake of argument let's just say that it means that Afghanistan becomes a functional democracy where all, including women are provided basic civil rights and the country isn't dominated by the Taliban or harboring those who we deem as terrorists. Really, does it look like we're even the tiniest bit close to that after over a decade? No, of course not.

You sir, are an educated and intelligent man. You know the history of Afghanistan and the failure of other nation's to impose their will on this country. It just doesn't work.

So why are we still there? If it's for political reasons, well, that's beneath contempt.

It's time to leave Afghanistan to the Afghan people. It's time to stop dominating their country. It's time to stop engaging with the ever so corrupt regime in power there. It's time to stop killing civilians.

It's past time to leave.

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Absolutely right. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2012 #1
I got to imagine that the Afghan justice system moves much exboyfil Mar 2012 #2
The definition of insanity... napoleon_in_rags Mar 2012 #3
I think this is a brilliant idea. Truly. Jackpine Radical Mar 2012 #9
Yeah, the solar chargers are of course a must. napoleon_in_rags Mar 2012 #12
One problem with those cell phone towers Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #13
Yep. Doing these sorts of things successfully requires the anti-science people to have no power. nt Lucky Luciano Mar 2012 #15
100% correct malaise Mar 2012 #4
I bid 110% correct. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #30
I heard Rush make the same claim about Afghans 10 years ago, bvar22 Mar 2012 #38
They are 7th century CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #39
I agree with your statement about living in the 7th Century, bvar22 Mar 2012 #44
Big Macs! CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #46
Well done. Welcome back, cali. cbayer Mar 2012 #5
Even if there was once some kind of legit "nation building" mission, it's over. leveymg Mar 2012 #6
I couldn't agree more. But didn't Mr. Obama say recently he was going to start transitioning our Booster Mar 2012 #7
I think he's getting some bad advice. russspeakeasy Mar 2012 #8
Getting out of Afghanistan by 2014 is the plan bhikkhu Mar 2012 #10
And Iran and Syria beckon... woo me with science Mar 2012 #11
Everyone I talk to agrees with your statement. Out now before things get even worse. Paper Roses Mar 2012 #14
Well, while we are at it, let's use this opportunity and also decide to leave Syria Fool Count Mar 2012 #16
Afghanistan is a travesty. BlueIris Mar 2012 #17
? how was that the most important reason? Skittles Mar 2012 #25
You clearly don't understand how foreign policy works. It's like a game of chess. progressoid Mar 2012 #18
That pipeline's not going to build itself. DefenseLawyer Mar 2012 #19
And there's no way we'll walk away from a trillion dollars in mineral deposits. OnyxCollie Mar 2012 #28
BINGO! That's the real reason we are there. nt DiehardLiberal Mar 2012 #42
And costing billions a month!!!!!! Logical Mar 2012 #20
Look out for the withdrawal plan being put together... sad sally Mar 2012 #21
just drop food & medicine-no more soldiers, mercenaries, bombs, predator drones StarsInHerHair Mar 2012 #22
Too simple. And too cheap. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #31
and burn every poppy field before we go SwampG8r Mar 2012 #23
John McCain won't like that Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2012 #24
Just curious. What then happens to the starving peasants of all genders? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #41
Canada quit Afghanistan but stayed to teach a new generation of soldiers. Perhaps it is applegrove Mar 2012 #26
"When vi'lence causes silence we must be mistaken" chknltl Mar 2012 #27
Stop killing and start trading with them madokie Mar 2012 #29
Our mission has become a defensive one: Defending ourselves from LeftinOH Mar 2012 #32
Absolutely agree. We should have been out a long time ago. n/t DLevine Mar 2012 #33
We should never have been there. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2012 #34
Agreed. n/t DLevine Mar 2012 #35
According to Panetta. FedUp_Queer Mar 2012 #36
Why? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ _ed_ Mar 2012 #37
And the winner is? FedUp_Queer Mar 2012 #43
I just hope we don't get the "Send off" they gave the Russians Taverner Mar 2012 #40
Good OP Cali - TBF Mar 2012 #45
It started as, always was, and still is, a war fought for "tough guy" PR and politics. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2012 #47
Good to see you posting! n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #48
Could not agree more with your last sentence. It's way past time to leave this poverty stricken midnight Mar 2012 #49
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