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12. No, we got something far to the right of what the nation was asking for.

Wed Nov 20, 2013, 05:28 PM

Nov 2013

Polls at the time showed strong support for a public option.

That momentum could have been used to create a national conversation and demand for something better. Instead, the President quietly scrapped that option in backroom deals.

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Imagine Single-Payer Healthcare and what the reaction would be. [View all] MineralMan Nov 2013 OP

I think you are exactly right. Everyone's thinking -providers, government, even consumer/patients Hoyt Nov 2013 #1

Companies would drop health insurance coverage for almost EVERYONE if Single Payer passed. NOVA_Dem Nov 2013 #14

Of course they would because no one would need insurance at all. TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #31

If we are going to have the complaints, whining and screaming anyway, it would have been nice Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #2

I'd rather have that, too. But the reason we don't have it is MineralMan Nov 2013 #5

No, we got something far to the right of what the nation was asking for. woo me with science Nov 2013 #12

Yes, I know that's your opinion. MineralMan Nov 2013 #13

Nothing is possible when it is quietly and deliberately taken off the table. woo me with science Nov 2013 #26

We didn't hear about it because the richest folks don't support it - TBF Nov 2013 #29

I think you're right for the most part. woo me with science Nov 2013 #36

While I agree,he was going to be accused of sufrommich Nov 2013 #3

The President of The United States cannot make laws. MineralMan Nov 2013 #7

Yes,I'm aware of that. Obamacare is called sufrommich Nov 2013 #9

He chose not to fight for a public option woo me with science Nov 2013 #10

100% pure woo. nt tridim Nov 2013 #19

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #20

Welcome to DU arcane1 Nov 2013 #25

Maybe the leaders/corps would be screaming but the people would be happy. polichick Nov 2013 #4

Not all of the people. I can promise that. MineralMan Nov 2013 #6

+1000000 woo me with science Nov 2013 #8

I suspect if people knew how expensive Medicare for all would be, they'd still gripe. Hoyt Nov 2013 #22

Other than the insurance industry,I doubt that most sufrommich Nov 2013 #11

I think you're right. I'd also add much of the healthcare provider industry and MineralMan Nov 2013 #15

I'm not really disagreeing with you,I just sufrommich Nov 2013 #21

Obamacare looks very much like means-tested Medicaid. FarCenter Nov 2013 #32

That's who I meant - the insurance companies, the ones who helped write the ACA. polichick Nov 2013 #18

That's why I think the path to single payer goes through a public option path. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #16

I'm certain it will have to be a process. MineralMan Nov 2013 #17

A voluntary public option may sufrommich Nov 2013 #23

yup ... once you put it in the State exchanges, you have the competition you need. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #24

That matters little. What we need is universal subsidized access to the exchanges TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #45

I know some American expats in Japan who hated the national health system when Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2013 #27

Yes. You pay for MineralMan Nov 2013 #41

"and everyone benefits according to their need" FarCenter Nov 2013 #28

Need? If you are sick you get care. MineralMan Nov 2013 #40

Most of the Industrial world does not in fact have 'single payer'. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #30

We have the network in place and it's very popular Chisox08 Nov 2013 #33

Exactly. MineralMan Nov 2013 #39

I know what my reaction would be. Deep13 Nov 2013 #34

"Everyone pays according to their income and everyone benefits according to their need." Martin Eden Nov 2013 #35

I think we need Marx in both places - TBF Nov 2013 #37

Yes. Healthcare should be a socialist system. MineralMan Nov 2013 #38

If our tax structure were more progressive, only the wealthy would complain. Laelth Nov 2013 #42

We don't have it because too many of our leaders truebluegreen Nov 2013 #43

Nonsense. The ACA is a corporate first model first proposed by Mitt Romney. Romulox Nov 2013 #44