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In reply to the discussion: I'd love to believe that the global crisis we're facing is all capitalism's fault. [View all]DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Growth is endemic to all Earth's life forms, but so far, nothing else has devoured the entire planet, and I think it's a little self-aggrandizing to imagine we are the exception.
Not to say we couldn't wreck the whole thing with a nuclear war or by further damaging the oceans, but growth alone isn't going to kill us all, or make life impossible.
Populations self-regulate, to some degree, with or without "misery and vice." Crude birth rates have been dropping since the 1950s.
And I don't think it's energy that's going to put the brakes on. Even without a breakthrough like nuclear fusion, solar, wind and other renewables are right in front of us.
Water and climate change will bring crisis first and hardest, I think.
And while I agree capitalism's model of constant, unlimited growth is a problem, I don't think a drastically different social or economic system of any kind has an answer to limited resources or human short-sightedness. If there is such a system, nothing people are talking about now fits the bill.
But we will find better ways to allocate resources, or the physical laws of the universe will pull us up short.
I don't see Earth's human population finding a peaceful, sustainable balance with Nature any time soon, but an apocalpyse based on just projecting current trends failed Malthus and Marx both. We bent the curve before hitting the wall head-on.
We'll be pushed, pulled, and dragged toward sustainable systems as we go.
How well we adapt and harmonize with those forces will determine how violent or how peaceably that occurs, but based on history so far, I'd bet on a lot of small-to-medium catastrophes over a gigantic, inevitable "splat," or the rise massively draconian cultural or political change designed to fix everything.