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Bernardo de La Paz

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48. Rs & Ts think this is about "optics" & poll-testing. Public knows this is about shutdown.

Thu Oct 3, 2013, 01:54 PM

Oct 2013

When Paul speculates about Democrats not poll-testing a key phrase, it shows that the Republicans did poll-test their key phrase.

They think that they can kidnap the economy and the government and win this on a poll-tested phrase, win this on perceptions and the facts be damned.

However many times it may have worked on lesser issues, it is definitely not working on this one.

The American public knows that a shutdown of the federal government is not a 'slimdown' or any other weasel words; It's a shutdown and they don't like it. Further, many of the Republican supporters are saying they like the shutdown even though they really don't and are already or soon will be inconvenienced or worse.

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HEADS UP: McConnell, Rand Paul Caught Talking Strategy On Hot Mic [View all] WilliamPitt Oct 2013 OP

A summary for those of us at work? randome Oct 2013 #1

"they haven't poll tested 'we will not negotiate'" Paul grantcart Oct 2013 #6

Mc Connell is right. Lugnut Oct 2013 #23

shorter version; They think they can win if they keep saying they are willing to MaeScott Oct 2013 #7

Republican "compromise".. sendero Oct 2013 #27

LOL, excellent analogy! Turborama Oct 2013 #38

Ha! Exactly. Well done. n/t DirkGently Oct 2013 #41

More Like: Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #43

I'm calling to negotiate a double date, you and me, Kif and Amy. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #45

perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #55

Ha ! Truly delusional. C_U_L8R Oct 2013 #2

I read the transcript and I really don't understand what they were talking about meadowlark5 Oct 2013 #3

Rather simple really, posturing and saying whatever instead of focusing on the problem Coyotl Oct 2013 #9

Oh. I guess I'm so used to them talking bullshit meadowlark5 Oct 2013 #13

Rand Paul is say basically, "I just lied and lied to CNN." Coyotl Oct 2013 #14

Rand Paul sucks. meadowlark5 Oct 2013 #16

Fuck Rand Paul and his daddy. n/t Whisp Oct 2013 #47

That's how they roll.... Bobbie Jo Oct 2013 #21

Rand Paul is saying that the Republicans are going avebury Oct 2013 #32

What was that gibberish? liberal N proud Oct 2013 #4

Debating the brand of turd polish to buy. n/t Orsino Oct 2013 #53

Rand Paul saying now they worked to defund it but now that they are here them saying they're willing NotThisTime Oct 2013 #5

Ha Ha motherfuckers gopiscrap Oct 2013 #8

Yup! I believe they were "accidentally" overheard. rdharma Oct 2013 #10

Yup. That was my first thought too. McConnell said "I'm wired up". Duh. lamp_shade Oct 2013 #12

Hysterical! and hopefully DELUSIONAL. Paul: "I think we'll win it." IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #11

We Won't Negotiate on Obamacares JustAnotherGen Oct 2013 #22

can anybody translate this? PD Turk Oct 2013 #15

Two high school kids plotting to blow up a frog with an M80. nt wandy Oct 2013 #33

they were clearly talking to us - Hot Mike my ass lame54 Oct 2013 #17

Yeah, I think you're right. This looks awfully contrived. n/t backscatter712 Oct 2013 #30

Trying to look rational I see. nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #18

McConnell is so bitter that he will not even say "The President" or "President Obama" Botany Oct 2013 #19

That's because they don't like a black man in the White House. roamer65 Oct 2013 #20

'HIM' just like 'THAT MAN' but they hate him more. Because they are old, he's young and the future. freshwest Oct 2013 #24

Really odd - I went back to the site that posted this - and they're hedgehog Oct 2013 #25

"They (the Obama administration) are saying the same thing in private as in public..." hedgehog Oct 2013 #26

Obama has only to add two words to make our framing complete: backscatter712 Oct 2013 #28

The Turtle & Toupee Blue Owl Oct 2013 #29

I think they both knew the mike was on and they were speaking for TV. Shrike47 Oct 2013 #31

McConnell even says "I'm all wired up here" at the start muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #34

TPM: McConnell, Rand Paul Caught On Hot Mic Talking Shutdown Strategy (VIDEO) Coyotl Oct 2013 #35

K&R Coyotl Oct 2013 #36

Every time Obama says "We will not negotiate," he draws massive cheers alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #37

Mama didn't raise no fools..that one was planned Peacetrain Oct 2013 #39

Busted, Disgusted, and Can't Be Trusted Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #40

Stupid Fucks Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #42

(Whisper) "We're gonna win this.." kentuck Oct 2013 #44

Wow, just wow Boom Sound 416 Oct 2013 #46

Derp. WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #49

Rs & Ts think this is about "optics" & poll-testing. Public knows this is about shutdown. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #48

Yes, especially when the Teabaggers start applying for gun permits! n/t landolfi Oct 2013 #52

Two Weasels Crewleader Oct 2013 #50

Doesn't "compromise" work against them with their base, who are Blue Meany Oct 2013 #51

here's a transcript... Javaman Oct 2013 #54

My fear is that Rand Paul may be right about the public perception. Jim Lane Oct 2013 #56