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Jackpine Radical

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17. There is no doubt that only systemic change will mitigate the corruption in the system.
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 10:09 AM
Sep 2013

And I say "mitigate" because I know that unscrupulous people always find a way to subvert every system.

In fact, it was that recognition that caused various Communist theorists to talk about the "permanent revolution," which they envisioned as self-cleaning. But of course nobody ever came up with a way to keep that process of "permanent revolution" from itself being corrupted.

Sometimes I despair of humans, as we are presently constituted, ever building a system that is better than we, in our venal little souls, manage to be. Therefore I think the only path to real change lies in a massive transformation of our values.

While that sounds impossible to attain, I do see some signs of such processes starting to take form. I would point to the Occupy movement as one of those signs. I'm particularly interested in its leaderless nature. However, such an entity is something like an organism in itself, and I imagine that any capacity it has for focusing on a specific goal must arise from the consensus process.

I keep bringing up a fascinating book in this context--Brafman & Beckstrom's The Starfish and the Spider.

http://www.amazon.com/Starfish-Spider-Unstoppable-Leaderless-Organizations/dp/1591841836/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1379599679&sr=1-1&keywords=brafman+starfish+spider

If you cut off a spider?s head, it dies; if you cut off a starfish?s leg it grows a new one, and that leg can grow into an entirely new starfish. Traditional top-down organizations are like spiders, but now starfish organizations are changing the face of business and the world.

What?s the hidden power behind the success of Wikipedia, craigslist, and Skype? What do eBay and General Electric have in common with the abolitionist and women?s rights movements? What fundamental choice put General Motors and Toyota on vastly different paths?

Ori Brafman and Rod Beckstrom have discovered some unexpected answers, gripping stories, and a tapestry of unlikely connections. The Starfish and the Spider explores what happens when starfish take on spiders and reveals how established companies and institutions, from IBM to Intuit to the U.S. government, are also learning how to incorporate starfish principles to achieve success.
Who is fooling who here? [View all] Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2013 OP
Who/what are you referring to? darkangel218 Sep 2013 #1
Class warfare. Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2013 #2
They spend most of their workhours fundraising and connecting. (Not kidding!) DetlefK Sep 2013 #3
Probably this story at HuffPo (LINK): pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #4
Just think how much more time they would have for serving us LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #6
That is what I have been posting daily for over a year now! Keep it up and in 10 years we Dustlawyer Sep 2013 #8
Yes, you've been entirely consistent on that theme. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #10
I don't expect the politicians to ever do it (vote to end their money machine), I hope that Dustlawyer Sep 2013 #13
There is no doubt that only systemic change will mitigate the corruption in the system. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #17
Money is Power Cryptoad Sep 2013 #18
That is correct. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #19
The only person who could spearhead it is Obama LiberalLovinLug Sep 2013 #20
I'll say it again Half-Century Man Sep 2013 #12
Yes, but the objective of the GOP is not to solve problems, but to create more of them. Haven't Cal33 Sep 2013 #15
Simple Solution: formercia Sep 2013 #16
Sadly, the Republicans manage to consistently irisblue Sep 2013 #5
And the Democrats manage to fool another 45%... Larry Ogg Sep 2013 #9
So the democrats secretly want to cuts jobs and pay and trash the economy bhikkhu Sep 2013 #21
Please add ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #7
Ain't that the truth! Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #11
I'll grant you ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #22
There are some who resist the corruption. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #23
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #24
heh Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #14
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