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What Alan Grayson REALLY says about the "Proof Assad Did It" - IN HIS OWN WORDS... [View all] Junkdrawer Sep 2013 OP

cue the astroturfers... nt msongs Sep 2013 #1

No kidding.... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #18

I can't see any of them... ignore them they are legion and they are not here to discuss bobduca Sep 2013 #25

Well I have to say, sheshe2 Sep 2013 #34

Nice ad hominem attack. You really don't want to talk about the issues, just attack the persons. leveymg Sep 2013 #51

What issues would those be? sheshe2 Sep 2013 #56

Let's get back to the lack of hard evidence about who fired off a bunch of crude gas rockets on 8/21 leveymg Sep 2013 #60

Astroturfers? Not sure what that means in this situation. The Tea Party was an astroturfed movement stevenleser Sep 2013 #76

He is the only one willing to tell us this truth so clearly and plainly. dkf Sep 2013 #2

Some here actually have the nerve to say: Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #4

Lol. dkf Sep 2013 #6

Oddly enough, both statements can be true. Assad's forces can have done it without Assad. stevenleser Sep 2013 #77

As I've said elsewhere, the Syrian military acting without Assad is more dangerous Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #81

A lot of his truedelphi Sep 2013 #12

She went farther than she could prove. dkf Sep 2013 #23

I agree with your assessment dkf 2banon Sep 2013 #58

The distinction he made is Assad ordering it Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #3

I think he's saying ALL the intel is shaky.... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #7

No, he's not. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #9

I posted his words. N/T Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #10

Go read them, then. n/t Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #11

I've read them. I've read them on DemocracyNow too..... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #13

The Democracy Now interview was on the 5th. The one you posted in the OP was from today. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #14

WHY is "beyond question at this point"? Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #15

Anyone who seriously thinks the rebels gassed themselves or other rebels on August 21 Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #19

Key Free Syria Army rebel 'killed by Islamist group' Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #20

There is no evidence a rebel group carried out the August 21 attack in your link. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #21

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You have no actual evidence and you're wrong, so you insult me? Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #24

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Go away. n/t Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #35

Welcome to DU... SidDithers Sep 2013 #39

He is refuting your point that the rebels wouldn't have attacked themselves. dkf Sep 2013 #27

I never said the rebels had not ever attacked other rebel groups in this civil war. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #30

Oh so they could have just not on August 21st? dkf Sep 2013 #32

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Not on August 21, they didn't. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #41

Link to the French evidence? Maedhros Sep 2013 #48

I found a link to the report - not to the satellite images, though. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #53

Here's the French report of 9/2 - no more real evidence than the State Dept report. leveymg Sep 2013 #61

Please post or link "video of the Syrian military using those exact same missiles in training" leveymg Sep 2013 #57

Those launchers are too small for the missiles used on August 21. It's not "similiar" at all. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #62

I am aware of that and wasn't claiming those are exactly the same as the 333mm rockets used leveymg Sep 2013 #63

Brown Moses is a good source here. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #71

I see them in this. But, the ones who appear to be arming the rocket aren't military - this isn't leveymg Sep 2013 #73

You don't see the uniformless men running away from the Syrian military, do you? Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #79

There's no evidence that ANY "rebels" were gassed is there? MNBrewer Sep 2013 #65

It was a rebel-controlled area that was attacked. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #72

The frame-up part is possible, but an unauthorized launch appears most likely to me. leveymg Sep 2013 #74

I refer you to the Human Rights Watch report I linked up above. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #80

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But remember that the people refuting you have irrefutable reason to do so: truedelphi Sep 2013 #78

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Have we met before? Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #28

Subtle, eh?...nt SidDithers Sep 2013 #43

he might have added..... Smarmie Doofus Sep 2013 #55

Exactly, ProSense Sep 2013 #8

"it's not like there aren't more confirmations" Wilms Sep 2013 #16

Here, ProSense Sep 2013 #17

I'm clinging to the fact that there are a bunch of liars in the world. Wilms Sep 2013 #29

So you doubt there was a chemical attack? ProSense Sep 2013 #37

You've answered my question. Wilms Sep 2013 #42

That is patently false. That type of rockets were introduced by Hezbollah last year. The Sarin is leveymg Sep 2013 #68

You're accusing HRW of lying? Hezbollah is pro-Assad. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #69

No, I'm saying the consultant who wrote their report seems to be mistaken leveymg Sep 2013 #75

Oh so the Germans have the actual Syrian communications but they choose to believe dkf Sep 2013 #31

Yes, they have "actual Syrian communications" ProSense Sep 2013 #45

It may have been a Hezbollah militia that did this without regime authorization. leveymg Sep 2013 #66

"The Known Role Of His Brother" DallasNE Sep 2013 #38

The source for that is DEBKA, an Israeli group known for disinformation. leveymg Sep 2013 #67

Exactly... SidDithers Sep 2013 #64

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #5

So why aren't they being allowed to see "the underlying intelligence reports"... polichick Sep 2013 #44

I would assume the most obvious answer BlueStreak Sep 2013 #47

What's scary is that there are ANY members of Congress who would vote yes... polichick Sep 2013 #50

Politicians look for what will a) help them get elected b) not hurt their election chances BlueStreak Sep 2013 #52

I'm sure you're right, but it's truly disgusting... polichick Sep 2013 #54

thank you, Mr. Grayson....and thanks for posting this. bbgrunt Sep 2013 #46

Stop with the secrecy. Enough of this garbage. If you have evidence, show it. sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #49

BIG K and R for Grayson and the RealNews 2banon Sep 2013 #59

K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2013 #70