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77. And that's a good thing?

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Mon Aug 26, 2013, 07:12 AM

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You have GOT to be fucking kidding me!! [View all] Harry Monroe Aug 2013 OP

They've essentially pardoned the banksters. Wilms Aug 2013 #1

What I got... BornLooser Aug 2013 #119

Satisfying logic to the pragmatic mind. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #132

Might as well do the war criminals and traitors, too. Octafish Aug 2013 #165

Sure RobertEarl Aug 2013 #2

Pass---MUSTER. maddiemom Aug 2013 #83

Pun. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #105

Olive for a good pun! kurtzapril4 Aug 2013 #129

Life without puns Aerows Aug 2013 #134

Pass the grey poupon..... but of course!! AAO Aug 2013 #116

OK! demwing Aug 2013 #154

Good one. LOL maddiemom Aug 2013 #199

This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Aug 2013 #177

why are you surprised? Skittles Aug 2013 #3

Exactly Phlem Aug 2013 #26

just a reminder, we do not have universal health care. magical thyme Aug 2013 #84

^ x100 ^ Myrina Aug 2013 #89

+1 area51 Aug 2013 #91

We do not have universal health insurance, either. JayhawkSD Aug 2013 #93

huh?!? nobody stopped you from buying health insurance in the past. magical thyme Aug 2013 #126

Double-huh?? Nobody stopped you from buying, true enough MrNJ Aug 2013 #171

oh, sorry, you're right. But now that those w/pre-existing conditions can buy health insurance magical thyme Aug 2013 #202

Yup. ctsnowman Aug 2013 #96

I asked my insurance company how denying coverage was anything different than AllyCat Aug 2013 #100

Yep. The same problem we had before. raouldukelives Aug 2013 #109

^ Thank you ^ n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #123

It's one thing to do nothing about the war criminal re. prosecution. no_hypocrisy Aug 2013 #104

eh, just another extension Skittles Aug 2013 #167

BHAHAAAAA!!! pitbullgirl1965 Aug 2013 #4

I don't see through you Skittles Aug 2013 #31

Not Hillary mtasselin Aug 2013 #33

The banksters will never allow anyone on that podium who won't work for them. AllyCat Aug 2013 #102

IMO, it IS Hillary for '16. I see no Dem that can beat her. 7962 Aug 2013 #189

No she isn't a liberal BUT pitbullgirl1965 Aug 2013 #193

Whadya expect? Link Speed Aug 2013 #5

But we are a nation of cowards...so say our great AG of these United States Supersedeas Aug 2013 #15

More projection -- they are the real cowards. nt Nay Aug 2013 #73

Appalling. aquart Aug 2013 #6

Ford did the same thing for Nixon Heather MC Aug 2013 #7

that doesn't make it right either. Demeter Aug 2013 #28

And the lesson learned by that is that avebury Aug 2013 #36

The lesson is they will always protect each other no matter what Heather MC Aug 2013 #67

No stained blue dress The Wizard Aug 2013 #80

Agree 1000%! nt avebury Aug 2013 #92

Only "40%"...??? (eom) CanSocDem Aug 2013 #98

Nixon insisted on the pardon as his price for resigning. Ken Burch Aug 2013 #53

I would love to watch a YT video of Ford say "the fucker wouldn't go...." Heather MC Aug 2013 #68

And Clinton did it for Bush Sr. n/t sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #118

And you supported Ford's decision? n/t markpkessinger Aug 2013 #137

Merely stating this is nothing new Heather MC Aug 2013 #160

I don't think anybody has said it is particularly new . . . markpkessinger Aug 2013 #161

Most of the stuff we read about that's happening in our country is indefensible Heather MC Aug 2013 #163

Ford granted a Presidential pardon to Nixon markpkessinger Aug 2013 #138

Wow. Unbelievable. But nothing shocks me anymore. But at least Pot users are still being jailed! n-t Logical Aug 2013 #8

I wonder why no one else except this author babylonsister Aug 2013 #9

Oh I don't know... a Google search for "Sundus Shaker Saleh" returns over 94,000 hits. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #22

Thank you! nt abelenkpe Aug 2013 #23

Filed Court Papers: Hissyspit Aug 2013 #88

Regardless of messenger, and there are many, delrem Aug 2013 #55

Here's a PDF of the court papers: Hissyspit Aug 2013 #87

So a judge found they were in the scope of their employment treestar Aug 2013 #122

treestar, so, it's OK refusing to defend DOMA? snark saidsimplesimon Aug 2013 #174

"What is this outrage about?" NealK Aug 2013 #179

I wouldn't trash them completely AikidoSoul Sep 2013 #208

And here's the link to the civil suit against Bush, et al AikidoSoul Sep 2013 #209

Obama continues to disappoint what a fuck up bowens43 Aug 2013 #10

He's protecting the Presidency as an institution, not Bush. /nt cigsandcoffee Aug 2013 #11

The president is only part of an institution, he's a person, like a corporation. orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #14

I read once that all Presidents take it as a mission to protect the executive powers of the office. cigsandcoffee Aug 2013 #17

Maybe cigandcoffee summer-hazz Aug 2013 #61

"The office of the President diminished" Half-Century Man Aug 2013 #79

I agree, 100%, but hueymahl Aug 2013 #117

"The office of the Presidency diminished...." Harry Monroe Aug 2013 #205

He's protecting the Presidency as an institution, and Bush, and himself. (fixed it for you) nt Electric Monk Aug 2013 #18

He's damaging the Presidency by covering for a war criminal. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #21

Exactly. Supersedeas Aug 2013 #82

Let alone the concept of damaging the Presidency JEB Aug 2013 #99

+1 n/t NealK Aug 2013 #180

That is true bhikkhu Aug 2013 #35

Perhaps the presidency as an institution is the problem Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #66

And that's a good thing? burnodo Aug 2013 #77

Thanks for the satisfying explanation Enthusiast Aug 2013 #133

No you protect the office of the President by prosecuting the people who abused their power. Chisox08 Aug 2013 #195

And Manning and Snowden are criminals ? no shit. How about purger's, knowingly lying ? orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #12

You, in my estimation, are the winner. Thanks. russspeakeasy Aug 2013 #90

Here is is a link that is better than the one you are using Autumn Aug 2013 #13

This whole thread is full of fail...I wonder if anybody has actually "read" the 2 page PDF snooper2 Aug 2013 #97

Nuremberg defense?? Downwinder Aug 2013 #16

Yep. The fucking Nuremberg Defense. GoneFishin Aug 2013 #19

Impeachment is Off the Table! chuckstevens Aug 2013 #20

That was when I knew the Democratic Party had jumped the shark. Maedhros Aug 2013 #185

The Repubs put it back on. tblue Aug 2013 #191

Professional Courtesy nt Elmergantry Aug 2013 #24

Why would you need immunity if you had done nothing wrong? sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #25

Great point! n-t Logical Aug 2013 #27

+1 ^^^this^^^ L0oniX Aug 2013 #45

No accountability for the big shots. JEB Aug 2013 #95

Nailed it. ctsnowman Aug 2013 #103

"Why would you need immunity if you had done nothing wrong?" NealK Aug 2013 #182

not surprised in the least. Phlem Aug 2013 #29

Perhaps he wants to set a good example MNBrewer Aug 2013 #30

Since 1789, has any US President allowed the prosecution of a previous President? madinmaryland Aug 2013 #32

Well, Bill Clinton faced impeachment hearings. delrem Aug 2013 #56

That's not one President going after a prior President. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #76

Has any US President INTERFERRED WITH A PRIVATE CIVIL LAWSUIT AGAINST a previous President? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #69

Thank you! n/t markpkessinger Aug 2013 #139

In fact Ford was ridiculed for giving Trickie Dick a pardon . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #192

No wonder none of those SOB's lose sleep. WCLinolVir Aug 2013 #34

#$%&ing Awesome!!! The wonder and the majesty of it all. MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #37

Because they want the same be done to them in case... Amonester Aug 2013 #38

You really expect Obama to be given "professional" courtesy, if the next President is a Republican? Harry Monroe Aug 2013 #207

Isn't that touching. Obama knocks himself out to cover Bush's ass, while forestpath Aug 2013 #39

If it's a violation of international law ... surrealAmerican Aug 2013 #40

~~~~~~~~~~ globalresearch is a shit source, it used to be forbidden on DU ~~~~~~~~~~ NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #41

Why do you hate Canada? L0oniX Aug 2013 #44

It's their coinage! NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #46

No wonder they don't tip. L0oniX Aug 2013 #49

Read it and weep markpkessinger Aug 2013 #48

Yes, I actually just found that in Sabrina's post. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #51

"We're all complicit in a way" - what a bullshit rationalization n/t markpkessinger Aug 2013 #52

Sorry to disappoint you, oh my! NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #64

X 1000 ctsnowman Aug 2013 #107

We're all complicit in a way. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #114

Yup, kiddo.... You should be calling bullshit on this OP. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #115

Granting immunity to war criminals is now reduced to "drama" . . . markpkessinger Aug 2013 #136

Rather than either of us have a pointless battle over semantics, how about better sources? NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #140

I've already provided a link to the filed papers n/t markpkessinger Aug 2013 #141

Is Daily Kos now a "conspiracy prone website?" markpkessinger Aug 2013 #142

Daily Kos, like Drudge and Huffington, is not an original source in most instances. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #151

So you are disputing that this motion was even filed? n/t markpkessinger Aug 2013 #152

(((crickets))) markpkessinger Aug 2013 #156

Cat got your tongue? DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #168

No. I happen to have a job that takes considerable attention away from having foolish arguments. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #170

I wanted to know if you plan to back up your accusation. Get to it when you get to it. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #172

What accusation was that? NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #175

Are you claiming this motion has not been filed? markpkessinger Aug 2013 #145

I imagine conflating precise communication with " pointless battle over semantics"... LanternWaste Aug 2013 #153

This message was self-deleted by its author markpkessinger Aug 2013 #135

Not sure David Swanson's site is any better than globalresearch... SidDithers Aug 2013 #149

Is this one a shit source too? NealK Aug 2013 #184

Meanwhile, pubs are clamoring to impeach Obama Ash_F Aug 2013 #42

So basically, go fuck yourselves, victims. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #43

This makes sense. Otherwise the following adminstration would be open to prosecution... Pterodactyl Aug 2013 #47

yep.... cover it up...cover it up...keep on digging. Sad isn't it. KoKo Aug 2013 #143

Yeah, and they would have had to prosecute Lyndon Johnson, of course. Pterodactyl Aug 2013 #194

If true...Don't blame me, I voted for Kucinich. flvegan Aug 2013 #50

This is very interesting. I just read through the whole thing and it appears sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #54

Rec AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #70

I wish all our victims luck If the day ever comes where our so-called leaders are brought to justice Catherina Aug 2013 #124

And, those who say "we didn't try"...that we were KoKo Aug 2013 #144

And another outrage widget hits the shop floor... SidDithers Aug 2013 #57

Are you for pardoning Bush, Cheney et al? nt Union Scribe Aug 2013 #60

Maybe you should alert and see that this type of discussion is smote. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #63

He did. He will attempt to convince the gd hosts to lock it because of the source. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #78

What response from the admin? nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #120

Normally he just locks it Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #157

Bullshit... SidDithers Aug 2013 #183

Yeah, just the ATA threads about your locks Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #196

One was a 5-0 vote to lock among Hosts when it was locked... SidDithers Aug 2013 #197

Knock yourself out if it makes you feel better Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #198

Calling you out on your bullshit accusation makes me feel better... SidDithers Aug 2013 #200

? Hissyspit Aug 2013 #94

This is a joke post, right? another_liberal Aug 2013 #58

They are including Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, and Condoleezza Rice. YOHABLO Aug 2013 #59

"legitimate scope of their employment" = lies to commit a crime against humanity? WinkyDink Aug 2013 #62

The USA will not prosecute their own war crimes, PDJane Aug 2013 #65

"After it was set up and finished with the German War Crimes tribunals, the US refused to join,.... Ghost in the Machine Aug 2013 #204

Obama MUST support immunity for Bush because... thesquanderer Aug 2013 #71

What about the forced feeding of Gitmo prisoners? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #127

200 Days Now. But, he did set up a Board of Review or something.... KoKo Aug 2013 #147

Speaking of books at Gitmo: NealK Aug 2013 #187

Ha! "50 Shades of Grey" is Approved but Not Gulag Archipelago? KoKo Aug 2013 #188

So true. NealK Aug 2013 #190

You would think that international law would still hold them responsible Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2013 #72

Nor are you alone, Bush and Cheney didn't think of themselves as employees either. A Simple Game Aug 2013 #111

Also...Nuremberg Trials are but a distant memory these days.. KoKo Aug 2013 #148

Ugh. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #74

They're not out of the woods bluedeathray Aug 2013 #75

My take away from this is... Javaman Aug 2013 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author Hissyspit Aug 2013 #86

I guess that pretty much wraps it up for me. Alkene Aug 2013 #85

Not quite the end yet. JoeyT Aug 2013 #112

"the President said it, I believe it, that settles it": 2004 bumper sticker updated for all admins! MisterP Aug 2013 #158

Indeed. Alkene Aug 2013 #166

Wow. Just...wow. AzDar Aug 2013 #101

And the next gop President will return the favor limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #106

They HOPE Republicans will return the favor... polichick Aug 2013 #181

Duh? Obama wants the same courtesy from the next POTUS. merrily Aug 2013 #108

It's 59-dimensional chess. nt valerief Aug 2013 #110

This is the stuff that foments deep seated hatred by the people and a desire for overthrow. ancianita Aug 2013 #113

K & R !!! - Being Reported Here Too... WillyT Aug 2013 #121

I just threw up joanbarnes Aug 2013 #125

The pardon only exists inside their bubble felix_numinous Aug 2013 #128

Those in power will continue to protect one another..... Swede Atlanta Aug 2013 #130

K&R Enthusiast Aug 2013 #131

Government protecting their own, what's new? alp227 Aug 2013 #146

Did you really expect something different? Rex Aug 2013 #150

Seems like a no-brainer. People really have to manage their expectations. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #155

I wonder if they'll ask to have the Statue of Liberty removed too Corruption Inc Aug 2013 #159

Bull shit BlueJac Aug 2013 #162

BFEE Forever! Octafish Aug 2013 #164

From the same office that says Snowden should've used "proper channels" to expose their crimes. Marr Aug 2013 #169

Think about it, Barack Obama... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #173

:( n/t BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2013 #176

This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Aug 2013 #178

It is all about protecting the powerful, not about justice. truebluegreen Aug 2013 #186

I don't know why anybody would be surprised at this. ladyVet Aug 2013 #201

Except if, God help us, that President is a looney bin-Teabilly Republican Harry Monroe Aug 2013 #206

This is the FINAL FUCKING STRAW!!!!!! AikidoSoul Aug 2013 #203