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WillyT

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Sat Aug 24, 2013, 02:27 PM Aug 2013

Obama Was Wrong: NSA Employees Have Deliberately "Abused" Their Power - Slate [View all]

Obama Was Wrong: NSA Employees Have Deliberately "Abused" Their Power
By Ryan Gallagher | Slate
Posted Friday, Aug. 23, 2013, at 5:29 PM

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In recent weeks, government officials have insisted that Americans need not worry about NSA surveillance because there are no cases of the system being wilfully abused. But new details have emerged showing these assurances to be blatantly false—in yet another twist that is sure to undermine trust in the NSA oversight regime.

On Friday, Bloomberg reported that NSA analysts have “deliberately ignored restrictions on their authority to spy on Americans multiple times in the past decade.” According to Bloomberg, an average of one case of intentional abuse per year has been documented in internal reports. Given that the NSA intercepts billions of communications weekly, the number of reported deliberate abuses is small. However, that there are any documented cases at all is highly significant because of how this contradicts statements made by both current and former senior officials in the aftermath of a series of stories about vast NSA spy programs based on leaked secret documents.


NSA chief Gen. Keith Alexander claimed at a New York cybersecurity conference earlier this month that “no one has wilfully or knowingly disobeyed the law or tried to invade your civil liberties or privacy.” A similar statement was made by the head of the Senate intelligence committee tasked with conducting oversight of the NSA. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said on Aug. 16 that the committee had “never identified an instance in which the NSA has intentionally abused its authority to conduct surveillance for inappropriate purposes.”

In an Aug. 9 news conference, President Obama stated, too, that abuse had not been occurring. “All the stories that have been written, what you're not reading about is the government actually abusing these programs and listening in on people's phone calls or inappropriately reading people's emails,” Obama said. Two days later, this statement was enthusiastically reiterated by former NSA chief Gen. Michael Hayden, who appeared on Face of the Nation. “There have been no abuses under him <President Obama> or under his predecessor <President Bush>,” Hayden insisted.

According to the Bloomberg report...

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More: http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/08/23/bloomberg_report_nsa_employees_have_deliberately_abused_their_power.html


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Obama is wrong? But Obama is the change we've been waiting for. Does-not-compute. Does-not-compute. Pterodactyl Aug 2013 #1
Snort! MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #2
He made a mistake. Surely by now you must know that Obama is only human. Many inside of gov. kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #11
Its his job to know. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #16
He made a mistake that he's CONTINUING to repeat. Th1onein Aug 2013 #30
If only Obama knew! Pterodactyl Aug 2013 #40
K&R MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #3
Defense of abusers is a regular feature of the Obama administration. forestpath Aug 2013 #4
The Government does not spy on Americans bvar22 Aug 2013 #5
My personal favorite LearningCurve Aug 2013 #17
I know that one is a favorite of Republicans, Libertarians, & Conservative "Reagan Democrats", bvar22 Aug 2013 #24
Reagan gets credit for the line, which is why Republicans like it so much LearningCurve Aug 2013 #28
Learning Curve, this is a liberal forum and that's a Ronald Raygun quote. Th1onein Aug 2013 #31
See my post right above yours LearningCurve Aug 2013 #41
We need to kill off the police forces, then railsback Aug 2013 #6
no, we need to reign them in- a lot. just like the NSA. cut the fuck out of their funding. cali Aug 2013 #7
Interesting railsback Aug 2013 #10
NSA... quakerboy Aug 2013 #12
Do you really think you know all the police force abuses? railsback Aug 2013 #21
Who cares about the porn? quakerboy Aug 2013 #23
Game, Set, & Match. bvar22 Aug 2013 #25
So true!! n-t Logical Aug 2013 #42
An average of one case out of billions a year? Isn't that to be expected? No system functions pnwmom Aug 2013 #8
And all it takes is one guy like Snowden to put them in a tailspin Ocelot Aug 2013 #13
Billions of cases per year? HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #18
So, you're admitting that they are spying on billions? Th1onein Aug 2013 #32
No. The billions refers to the number of incidents, not the number of targets. pnwmom Aug 2013 #33
That's what I'm talking about. Th1onein Aug 2013 #34
That isn't what the OP said. It's referring to the number of occurrences, pnwmom Aug 2013 #36
Okay, pay attention now: Th1onein Aug 2013 #37
They are collecting metadata on all the calls, so in that sense they're spying on all of us. pnwmom Aug 2013 #39
Sorry, but you are WRONG. Th1onein Aug 2013 #43
Then complain to your Congress people for making it legal. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #44
Oh, I've done that. Also, I DON'T support anyone, in any way, INCLUDING OBAMA, Th1onein Aug 2013 #45
du rec. xchrom Aug 2013 #9
A friendly message from the US government to its people: Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #14
K&R NealK Aug 2013 #15
"Proof," as they construe it, is irrelevant anyway. woo me with science Aug 2013 #19
Your link had an update LearningCurve Aug 2013 #20
Thank You For That !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #22
But only to make sure their spouses aren't cheating! Or, to help the DEA arrest pot smokers. Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #26
K&R idwiyo Aug 2013 #27
We just need to halt all human activity. gulliver Aug 2013 #29
There. It's been said. Having BEEN said, can we now approach the problem with some semblance cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #46
kick. nt limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #35
Kick! nt Logical Aug 2013 #38
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