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tblue

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26. Wait. What?

Fri Aug 23, 2013, 05:23 PM

Aug 2013

I saw the video that everyone saw—of the joyful target-shooting of people on the ground. I didn't know about the one of journalists being shot. Is that the same or a different video? I think I need to throw up. Ugh.

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---so what you are saying, is we would be BETTER OFF --- NOT KNOWING THESE THINGS?: [View all] kpete Aug 2013 OP

please please please don't take my blinders away.... mike_c Aug 2013 #1

Yes. I don't need to know these things. progressoid Aug 2013 #2

progressoid kpete Aug 2013 #3

Fuck yeah! DeSwiss Aug 2013 #15

Books! progressoid Aug 2013 #22

Yes. Aerows Aug 2013 #4

Nice phrasing LearningCurve Aug 2013 #20

It's the classic authoritarian argument. Let your leaders take care of you. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #31

Except he would say Aerows Aug 2013 #33

It's like Ellsberg revealed in his memoirs, Fuddnik Aug 2013 #50

They're protecting us from our own traitorous and untrustworthy minds. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #5

If those things were all Manning leaked, your point would be stronger (nt) Recursion Aug 2013 #6

Oh? Aerows Aug 2013 #7

He asserts great damage was done by the large release Hydra Aug 2013 #10

Please, chervilant Aug 2013 #23

Heh Aerows Aug 2013 #24

How do you know what was leaked? Read about it somewheres? Care to share your rhett o rick Aug 2013 #32

kick hfojvt Aug 2013 #8

well, yeah--makes it easier not to have cognitive dissonance MisterP Aug 2013 #9

Msg 2 Obama: I'm all grown up now, and don't need "protection" from the truth. ~nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #11

Obama is not the only adult in the room Ocelot Aug 2013 #48

Of course we'd be better off not knowing. Ignorance is BLISS, baby! kath Aug 2013 #12

Thank you Kpete for not letting go of this issue. zeemike Aug 2013 #13

I continue to be shocked kpete Aug 2013 #14

The chopper video did it for me too. I can understand being gungho and wanting to A Simple Game Aug 2013 #25

Shooting up the van with the kids in it, did it for me. RC Aug 2013 #56

Wait. What? tblue Aug 2013 #26

No it was the same one. zeemike Aug 2013 #28

If you watched the long version, near the end, there was a guy just walking down a sidewalk... xocet Aug 2013 #39

Yes I saw that. zeemike Aug 2013 #43

They're scared kpete. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #16

You quote..... AnneD Aug 2013 #52

DURec. bvar22 Aug 2013 #17

K&R! Phlem Aug 2013 #18

Are you implying that all 250,000 cables Manning indiscriminately released contained pnwmom Aug 2013 #19

Well, progressoid Aug 2013 #21

First, get the story right... TiberiusB Aug 2013 #41

I'm so proud of my country Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #27

K&R n/t jtuck004 Aug 2013 #29

None of this will be stopped until people worry more about what the Country as a whole is doing A Simple Game Aug 2013 #30

K&R blackspade Aug 2013 #34

Depends. Is anyone going to do anything about any of it that might make a merrily Aug 2013 #35

Those Iraq numbers seem suspiciously low. ucrdem Aug 2013 #36

Wikileaks is a Bush operation? Your thinking is most impressive! DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #53

It would be uncivil to amplify the sentiment indicated by the word "impressive", wouldn't it? xocet Aug 2013 #55

Well, I ask, are we better off knowing these things. Since knowing...no more income, no job for kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #37

a year ago here on du SwampG8r Aug 2013 #38

True knowledge is a danger to TPTB; propaganda is much better. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #40

And they believe the Enemy is us. tblue Aug 2013 #60

kick burnodo Aug 2013 #42

knowing all that stuff is riuning my enjoyment of american idol. KG Aug 2013 #44

K&R NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #45

K&R n.t myrna minx Aug 2013 #46

Thank you for the original, other OP.. pangaia Aug 2013 #47

Kick and Rec and bookmarked! Fuddnik Aug 2013 #49

If the Bush administration had prosecuted Manning, then no- Obama administration, yes MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #51

I thought most of this had been reported by madinmaryland Aug 2013 #54

If the government thought we needed to know any of that, they would have told us themselves. dawg Aug 2013 #57

It's not about our knowing, but about treestar Aug 2013 #58

. corkhead Aug 2013 #59