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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 08:56 PM Jul 2013

I'm a little puzzled here. Remember the Outrageous! Outrageous! [View all]

IRS pretend scandal a month or two ago? The one where everyone said "Outrageous!" a lot because some Republican at the IRS thought that organizations with the phrase "Tea Party" in their names might have a political purpose? Where Holder started a criminal investigation? The one where the only harm done was that a few tea party groups were delayed in getting tax-exempt status?

In that pretend scandal, the head of the IRS - who was not head of the IRS when the Outrageous! behavior occurred, and actually had zero to do with said outrageous behavior - was fired within days.

Let's now turn to the Snowden situation. Snowden, a 29-year-old relatively new hire, was given access to, and able to take home, massive volumes of information that (we are told) is so supermegasecret that we're now totally fucked as a nation, our deepest secrets revealed for all of our enemies to grok.

So, as Sen. Leahy asked today, why hasn't anyone been fired for letting this happen? Where's the scalp of the head of the NSA, who actually was the head of the NSA when this happened? Why is the director of national security still in place after giving Congress admittedly untruthful answers?

WTF is going on here? Could the incompetence and prevarication be any worse?

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A foolish consistency Jackpine Radical Jul 2013 #1
I, uh, hate to judge before all the facts are in, and I don't think it's quite fair to condemn a usGovOwesUs3Trillion Aug 2013 #24
Well, Dimitri... one of our generals went... meaculpa2011 Aug 2013 #35
Only one of our generals did a silly thing? sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #44
He's quoting Dr. Strangelove. navarth Aug 2013 #62
The Obama administration is only willing to stand behind certain select individuals. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #2
Maybe they were fired in secret leftstreet Jul 2013 #3
Good one! deurbano Jul 2013 #9
And then the classifying was classified. zeemike Jul 2013 #12
Sacking the new guy was deemed good PR. dgauss Jul 2013 #4
"WTF is going on here?" That's classified information, citizen. scarletwoman Jul 2013 #5
Recommended before extemporaneous responses give way to faxed talking points DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #6
Maybe because they're 2 different kinds of issues jazzimov Jul 2013 #7
What's the salient difference, as you see it? nt MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #11
Accountants are a dime a dozen, intelligence experts not so much? JaneyVee Aug 2013 #45
Oh, this should be good. Marr Jul 2013 #13
Maybe you are confused. Jakes Progress Jul 2013 #14
*knock knock* Marr Aug 2013 #16
I'll bite... cui bono Aug 2013 #20
The intermittently intelligent cow. Marr Aug 2013 #23
The intermittently intelligent cow, who? n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #29
MOOOOO. Marr Aug 2013 #41
LOL! Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #43
While we are at it what about the head of Booz Allen? Seems like they got an easy slide here too. Ford_Prefect Jul 2013 #8
Booz Allen has lobbyists Vanje Aug 2013 #60
If only Obama knew, surely he would do something. Why are his aides keeping it from him? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #10
Maybe some of his aides are bobduca Aug 2013 #42
New Hire? Snowden had previously worked for the CIA... ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #15
So a single individual accesses, copies, and takes home that much info, and MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #17
In reality, Snowden didn't get any of the "crown jewels" of national security... ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #18
The new talking points ...are the old talking points nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #19
Facts don't change just because you don't like them ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #22
You are right, facts don't change nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #26
ROFL malaise Aug 2013 #74
Now, there's a quantum leap chervilant Aug 2013 #28
It has to do with the whole "Police State" argument ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #53
Let me see if I've got this right: chervilant Aug 2013 #65
Typical twisting of words and attacking crudely constructed strawmen ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #66
Spoken like a true Democrat. great white snark Aug 2013 #67
Wow! chervilant Aug 2013 #68
Wow! ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #69
Your need to be right, chervilant Aug 2013 #73
they have evolved a little SwampG8r Aug 2013 #30
Good catch nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #46
He'll be a schlub again the moment that fits the narrative. Marr Aug 2013 #70
And walk out the door with it? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #21
If Snowden had put poison in his co-worker's coffee... ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #25
Oh Ah OH Fucking WOW HangOnKids Aug 2013 #27
reality based my big red ass SwampG8r Aug 2013 #32
It's always good to question reality from time to time. Zorra Aug 2013 #36
Ever been in a highly-secure facility? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #38
Yes I have... ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #48
USB ports should be physicall plugged with epoxy MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #54
Epoxy helps... ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #58
"Fib", lmao. Marr Aug 2013 #71
I see a nerve has been severly touched mick063 Aug 2013 #72
Rerspectfully,Ithink that you missed the point emsimon33 Aug 2013 #56
du rec. xchrom Aug 2013 #31
Because no one did anything wrong treestar Aug 2013 #33
Did you read the OP? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #37
Why are you blaming anyone other than Snowden??? Have you forgotten how unfriendly he was??? reformist2 Aug 2013 #34
That Poor Ballerina! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #40
I thought she was a pole dancer hootinholler Aug 2013 #49
Republicans didn't demand someone go to jail G_j Aug 2013 #39
Some Republicans think Caretha Aug 2013 #47
Different rules for the powerless and the powerfull. reusrename Aug 2013 #50
... Were he rich and power full enough he could kidnap, torture, rape, and indefinitely detain peopl questionseverything Aug 2013 #51
... questionseverything Aug 2013 #52
Great question to which there is probably a rhetorical answer! emsimon33 Aug 2013 #55
The NSA leaker worked for a contractor, Progressive dog Aug 2013 #57
I think one sentence here would be more accurate if you moved just one word ... pkdu Aug 2013 #59
"All our (alleged) incompetence felix_numinous Aug 2013 #61
Manny, Manny, Manny ...... Its THX1138 time now. Eat your little pill. Everything will be .... marble falls Aug 2013 #63
Could it get any worse? is a very dangerous question. tclambert Aug 2013 #64
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