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hunter

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37. I suspect nearly all periods of rapid climate change in earth's history...
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 12:00 PM
Jul 2013

... are a consequence of biological innovation.

We tend to think of life adapting to physical changes in the earth's environment, but it goes much further than that because these physical changes are usually caused by biological innovation.

In a very substantial way it was the evolution of C4 plants that created the chaotic climate conditions our ancestors adapted to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C4_photosynthesis

If not for this biological innovation by PLANTS we'd probably still be bonobo-like creatures living in the forests.

The common image people have of paleontologists is someone looking for fossil bones, but it's the evolutionary innovations in biochemistry that have left their mark everywhere in the geological record.

If modern industrial human soon goes extinct, which seems very likely, the greater consequences of our existence, the geochemical changes, the reduced biodiversity, will be rapidly erased.

I think humans are still a "flash in the pan" at this point. Time will tell, but none of us are likely to be around ten million years from now.

I'm not dismissing the environmental damage we do, but our industrial species of human will probably be one of the species lost.

A decrease in intelligence is as likely as an increase simply because it takes a lot of energy to maintain intelligence, and with greater intelligence there is more to go wrong in the developmental process.

lol. that may be the funniest glass half full reference ever cali Jul 2013 #1
"But it was not, as some had predicted, the end of the world." NuclearDem Jul 2013 #2
Everything old is new again! FSogol Jul 2013 #4
Mass extinction? HappyMe Jul 2013 #3
There have been survivors, LWolf Jul 2013 #5
The cockroaches will rule! Fuddnik Jul 2013 #6
So be it. dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #9
Woops, not everywhere. longship Jul 2013 #28
Not if the human survivors have a good supply of Raid. n/t RebelOne Jul 2013 #33
Present company excepted, of course... MineralMan Jul 2013 #7
I'd take a more moderate approach. LWolf Jul 2013 #11
I see. Well, then... MineralMan Jul 2013 #13
But I don't. LWolf Jul 2013 #14
Well, OK, then. MineralMan Jul 2013 #15
The solution is actually to *expand* choice--particularly for women. antigone382 Jul 2013 #22
That's one viable strategy, anyway. LWolf Jul 2013 #25
To fit with the theme of the OP book recommendation csziggy Jul 2013 #8
Great site, thanks. n/t FSogol Jul 2013 #24
"You call what's goin' on around here a leak? Boy, the last time there was a leak like this . . . Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #10
Twinkies and roaches... one_voice Jul 2013 #12
plus sharks and arely staircase Jul 2013 #21
Humans are just another animal species circling the drain. hunter Jul 2013 #16
Not much chance of us going extinct...... AverageJoe90 Jul 2013 #17
Trilobites were tough too. hunter Jul 2013 #18
Apples and oranges, my friend. Apples and oranges. n/t AverageJoe90 Jul 2013 #19
It's not, and that's exactly where the human race has gone wrong. hunter Jul 2013 #29
Maybe so, but we are still truly unique. You can't deny that. AverageJoe90 Jul 2013 #31
No, we are creatures that adapt our environment like no other muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #36
I suspect nearly all periods of rapid climate change in earth's history... hunter Jul 2013 #37
If you can't outright deny climate change, you'll say the change is no big deal CreekDog Jul 2013 #27
That wasn't my intent behind that post and you damn well know it. AverageJoe90 Jul 2013 #30
don't try to make it about me. you disagree and minimize every specific climate change topic CreekDog Jul 2013 #34
CD, where did I mention climate change in that post? AverageJoe90 Jul 2013 #35
Either the book or the review is a bit confused muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #20
Still would be quite the scary scene, though. AverageJoe90 Jul 2013 #32
there's a joke about a guy that's scared about the sun exploding Enrique Jul 2013 #23
"Scatter" is the stupidest advice out there Warpy Jul 2013 #26
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