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pipi_k

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20. As I read the description of

Reply to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 11:43 AM

Jul 2013

what these men are doing, it occurred to me that it's similar to, or maybe even exactly like, what I've been doing...off and on...for over 40 years.

Panic disorder, combined with Agoraphobia. Mix in some depression and social anxiety and you have a brew that's going to make someone feel like shit, personally and professionally, which is going to add to the depression and anxiety, which is going to exacerbate the feelings of self hatred and guilt, etc., etc.

It's a vicious circle.

To feel that way, and then be lectured for bringing shame on the family...holy shit. It's a wonder they don't take their own lives. Perhaps some of them do.

Nobody who has never gone through that can ever know what a living hell it is.

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Hikikomori: Why are so many Japanese men refusing to leave their rooms? [View all] HiPointDem Jul 2013 OP

so if they hid and withdrew, who fed them? h mmm nt msongs Jul 2013 #1

The article says that most of the men are LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #2

More often she leaves it at the door, I hear. nt Bonobo Jul 2013 #4

I think in the West, many sociopathic feelings can find external expression Bonobo Jul 2013 #3

That's orientalistic codswallop... shaayecanaan Jul 2013 #6

I have never heard of that degree or amount of hikkikomori behavior in other places Bonobo Jul 2013 #14

maybe some of these stay-at-home dudes just need a car snooper2 Jul 2013 #21

I think that they are called "twixters" here... shaayecanaan Jul 2013 #23

A few years ago, one of the local hikikomori Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #10

Yeah, that certainly happens. nt Bonobo Jul 2013 #15

Japanese leaders have failed the nation LittleBlue Jul 2013 #5

There are numerous reasons why young Japanese don't want to start families Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #11

Looks to me like Japanese society is going to make LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #12

It's not going to die out. But every culture changes. n/t backscatter712 Jul 2013 #18

I'd say its mixed fairly well... shaayecanaan Jul 2013 #24

My wife's (Japanese) parents are a bit like that... shaayecanaan Jul 2013 #25

It's a tough call Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #26

You'd probably do what Japanese men do... shaayecanaan Jul 2013 #27

People tell me that I have become "japanified" Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #28

You should be alright with the Playstation (nt) shaayecanaan Jul 2013 #29

Opting out of society. Democracyinkind Jul 2013 #7

Yes we do have them. LuvNewcastle Jul 2013 #8

yep, same here, Joe Shlabotnik Jul 2013 #19

A Japanese friend says this is a failure to socialize mixed with mediocrity and sadistic parenting Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2013 #9

I have heard about this.. AsahinaKimi Jul 2013 #13

OMG, this closely describes my daughter LiberalEsto Jul 2013 #16

Depression, despair... devils chaplain Jul 2013 #17

As I read the description of pipi_k Jul 2013 #20

There are three solutions to this: Meaningful Work, War, or Revolution. hunter Jul 2013 #22