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demunderground1985la

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94. That's easy

Reply to yardwork (Original post)

Thu Jul 4, 2013, 05:11 PM

Jul 2013

Because GZ is a lying, steaming pile of shite. Actually, that would be an insult to shite.

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If Zimmerman was hurt so badly, why didn't he accept help when it was offered? [View all] yardwork Jul 2013 OP

Because he's a manly masculine man. WinkyDink Jul 2013 #1

Because he is a goddam liar.. HipChick Jul 2013 #2

Because his story is a pile of bullshit. madaboutharry Jul 2013 #3

If he'd had his head slammed on the concrete sidewalk 20-30 times, why didn't the EMTs insist winter is coming Jul 2013 #4

EMT's can't force you to go anywhere, premium Jul 2013 #7

If they see someone who's concussed all to hell, it's gonna be some very strong advice. n/t winter is coming Jul 2013 #9

Exactly, and Zimmerman didn't for whatever reason, he should have, premium Jul 2013 #16

maybe he wasn't "concussed all to hell" magical thyme Jul 2013 #17

If Zimmerman had had his head slammed 20-30 times on concrete he would be unconscious yardwork Jul 2013 #13

You're right, premium Jul 2013 #19

And that has nothing whatsoever to do with my OP. yardwork Jul 2013 #21

Why he refused to go to the hospital? premium Jul 2013 #26

My OP doesn't say anything at all about the hospital or EMTs. yardwork Jul 2013 #27

You said medial assistance, I assumed you meant the hospital premium Jul 2013 #29

I am asking why Zimmerman refused his neighbor's offer to call authorities during the fight. yardwork Jul 2013 #30

Why would he, he knew the police were already on the way, premium Jul 2013 #36

I believe you said you are former LEO? Just Saying Jul 2013 #61

Thanks. premium Jul 2013 #62

I don't know the exact quotes and I don't have time at the moment to review videos. Just Saying Jul 2013 #65

Exactly. If Martin had shot and killed Zimmerman that night there would be no arguments about this. yardwork Jul 2013 #89

I believe it was in the recreation video Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #91

Ok thanks for the info. premium Jul 2013 #95

Thank you. This article summarizes many of the things Zimmerman claimed in the video. yardwork Jul 2013 #96

The fight was over and Z had already called the cops. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #112

About the only way he'd have minor damage is if a one year old was doing the "bashing." MADem Jul 2013 #128

I also wonder how and the hell could Trayvon FarPoint Jul 2013 #134

I'm pretty sure pipi_k Jul 2013 #14

Correct, no where in the U.S. premium Jul 2013 #28

I've heard of pipi_k Jul 2013 #5

Some people simply HATE going to the hospital for any reason. HolyMoley Jul 2013 #6

I'm not talking about going to the hospital. yardwork Jul 2013 #10

Z was not thinking straight or very logically. It is that simple. He wasn't thinking straight or uppityperson Jul 2013 #34

I don't buy it. yardwork Jul 2013 #37

I wrote another reply, will stick with that and I also agree with you. uppityperson Jul 2013 #42

then his entire multiple statements can be discounted TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #117

Oh I agree and can not trust anything he says. The police were idiots, not testing him for drugs, uppityperson Jul 2013 #124

Because some people don't even want that simple of an examination HolyMoley Jul 2013 #39

A person has just had their head supposedly slammed against concrete "20 or 30 times" yardwork Jul 2013 #47

Zimmerman knew the police were on their way Boudica the Lyoness Jul 2013 #49

The witness stated that Martin was lying on the ground and Zimmerman was standing up at that point. yardwork Jul 2013 #53

I cannot find the part about Zimmerman being asked if Boudica the Lyoness Jul 2013 #129

I know those kind of men BUT Skittles Jul 2013 #24

Because he didn't think things through HolyMoley Jul 2013 #31

Actually, the evidence shows that Zimmerman calculated very carefully. yardwork Jul 2013 #32

Really? What evidence? HolyMoley Jul 2013 #41

He intended to kill somebody? premium Jul 2013 #58

Strapped his gun on in hopes "opportunity" gunners yearn for arose. Hoyt Jul 2013 #64

Not even the DA believes that, premium Jul 2013 #66

I don't know if Zimmerman was hoping to use it Just Saying Jul 2013 #69

Agreed, and we also wouldn't be having this conversation. nt. premium Jul 2013 #70

So, let's restrict toting and gun nuttery - Martin would be alive. Zim would be cowering at home, Hoyt Jul 2013 #92

I've addressed that with you already Hoyt, premium Jul 2013 #99

Whisper it to your guns, I don't care to hear more gun and Z love from you either. Hoyt Jul 2013 #102

Come on Hoyt, premium Jul 2013 #106

You know, for a long time I resisted seeing this as a gun control case, but I've changed my mind. yardwork Jul 2013 #100

With all due respect Crepuscular Jul 2013 #109

I agree, gun control is a non-starter for now davidpdx Jul 2013 #121

And some different people would be dead... Pelican Jul 2013 #135

well yes, he is dumber than a fence post Skittles Jul 2013 #35

Same here LittleBlue Jul 2013 #52

and would you have resisted treatment if you believed TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #118

HE FUCKING SHOT A KID , HE THOUGHT IT WAS BAD ENOUGH TO KILL SOMEONE JI7 Jul 2013 #107

That's my point. yardwork Jul 2013 #113

that's why i can't stand these stupid examples JI7 Jul 2013 #115

I think the idea of self defense is to Boudica the Lyoness Jul 2013 #130

he fucking lied when he said he was slammed 30 times JI7 Jul 2013 #131

Exactly. Zim's whole story was (and is) grossly embellished. All to justify killing a kid. nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #132

I can't find on any transcripts Boudica the Lyoness Jul 2013 #139

I hope that the prosecutors ask the jury to think about this. yardwork Jul 2013 #8

Whatever holes and inconsistencies pipi_k Jul 2013 #33

WTF??? TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #123

When detectives had him in for questioning, they doubted the severity truedelphi Jul 2013 #11

Because he was busy making sure the dead boy Politicalboi Jul 2013 #12

Exactly. We only heard the story about self-defense much later. yardwork Jul 2013 #15

I think he was busy making sure he was subdued TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #119

Crick_ets yardwork Jul 2013 #18

You are describing two separate incidents... Pelican Jul 2013 #20

I am not describing the EMT's involvement at all. yardwork Jul 2013 #23

Sorry, but what does this part of your OP mean? "didn't he accept the offer of medical assistance... uppityperson Jul 2013 #38

A person in fear for their life would perceive any offer of help as including medical help. yardwork Jul 2013 #45

I do not understand why, if it went down like Z said, he thought TM might still be alive. uppityperson Jul 2013 #48

I can think of one reason that is even more powerful than being on drugs. yardwork Jul 2013 #50

There is that also. SuperTrayvon the Octopus. uppityperson Jul 2013 #55

Here's what you wrote, premium Jul 2013 #44

Now that I've clarified, do you have a response? yardwork Jul 2013 #46

He asked the neighbor to HELP subdue Trayvon as that was his main concern. uppityperson Jul 2013 #51

I have no idea why he did that, I wasn't there, premium Jul 2013 #54

Ok... that actually makes less sense... Bravo... Pelican Jul 2013 #63

The severity of Zimmermans injuries are immaterial Crepuscular Jul 2013 #22

So he was in fear of his life but asked his neighbor not to call the authorities? yardwork Jul 2013 #25

Because he knew the police were on the way and he thought the octopus TM might jump up uppityperson Jul 2013 #40

He already knew that the police were on the way, premium Jul 2013 #43

it was the Asian guy with the flashlight TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #126

That sounds to me customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #56

They got there in a scant few minutes TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #127

I believe Crepuscular Jul 2013 #73

But if his head had been slammed "20 or 30 times against the sidewalk" wouldn't he care about that? yardwork Jul 2013 #83

I thought that his defense is Crepuscular Jul 2013 #93

Zimmerman's buddy Osterman wrote that Martin actually grabbed Z's pistol, but neither Martin's yardwork Jul 2013 #97

Osterman Crepuscular Jul 2013 #108

You make my head hurt RGR375 Jul 2013 #75

If I'd had my head slammed "20 or 30 times against the concrete" I would be begging for help. yardwork Jul 2013 #82

If Zimmerman had thrown one punch . . . madashelltoo Jul 2013 #60

According to the statute Crepuscular Jul 2013 #72

What is wrong with you? RGR375 Jul 2013 #74

"Reasonable belief" is where we part company. madashelltoo Jul 2013 #78

We'll see what the jury concludes in that regard. Crepuscular Jul 2013 #80

Nope, it's what a reasonable person thinks, not some yahoo so afraid he has to be surrounded by Guns Hoyt Jul 2013 #101

+1 nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #133

Nope, it is not what "he" thought, it's what a reasonable person would think. Hoyt Jul 2013 #98

I believe the law is "reasonable person" riverwalker Jul 2013 #116

Unless he lied about the severity Nevernose Jul 2013 #120

The injuries are VERY material TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #125

My guess Crepuscular Jul 2013 #138

Because he has a gun. And gunboys are tough. Kingofalldems Jul 2013 #57

Because he was NOT hurt that badly? libodem Jul 2013 #59

Zimmerman is nothing but a lying prick with a big gun catbyte Jul 2013 #67

Perhaps you could ask this person. Soundman Jul 2013 #68

Z never asked for help subduing Martin TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #71

He yelled to John Good for help RGR375 Jul 2013 #76

Or John Good might be dead too. There was more than one bullet in Zimmerman's gun, I assume. yardwork Jul 2013 #84

I read a witness say that Zimmerman said something like "Never mind that, help me subdue this guy." yardwork Jul 2013 #87

that might have been my thread about the re-enactment TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #103

Thank you. Yes, it was Zimmerman himself who said this, in the reenactment video. yardwork Jul 2013 #104

Y'all know we're not the jury, right? Deep13 Jul 2013 #77

Maybe he was traumatized from "unexpectedly" having to stand someone else's ground. nt silvershadow Jul 2013 #79

I agree with this point about standing someone else's ground. yardwork Jul 2013 #85

I'm not versed in Florida's stand your ground law, but that's the way I see it too. No matter what silvershadow Jul 2013 #90

i don't get this librechik Jul 2013 #81

no one saw the shooting TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #110

thx for taking the time to answer librechik Jul 2013 #111

If it was slammed even ONCE the way he describes it Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #86

Hi there, RtL! Hope you are well! yardwork Jul 2013 #88

He most certainly would have had a big sore egg on his head TorchTheWitch Jul 2013 #114

Interesting point Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #137

That's easy demunderground1985la Jul 2013 #94

Because . . . Major Hogwash Jul 2013 #105

Question davidpdx Jul 2013 #122

Because he's Mr. Bad-Ass Defender of the Condos. AngryOldDem Jul 2013 #136