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Would you support imposing restrictions to breeding pit-bulls? [View all] La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 OP

Fuck no. Make laws for all breeds then, why pick on pits only?? darkangel218 May 2013 #1

look at the shelters in NYC for instance La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #8

I dont know, i love pits. Maybe you have a point darkangel218 May 2013 #16

i am not negative about the breed per-se but i do think the breed requries La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #19

I agree with you. darkangel218 May 2013 #37

Shelters are packed full of mutts. Make the same requirements for all dogs. uppityperson May 2013 #53

not in nyc. we have a lack of non-pit mutts La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #67

Wow, there are that many akc "pit bulls" in the shelters there? Or do you mean a dog that looks like uppityperson May 2013 #121

backyard breeders are akc certified usually? the shelters id them as pits or pit mixes La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #122

Ah, so any dog a shelter says is a pit is a pit. Totally subjective. Got it, thanks. uppityperson May 2013 #126

you can argue with me for arguments sake, but look at the dogs La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #127

shelters usually don't just go by looks. Sunlei May 2013 #153

Not here - 40% is just Pits & Chis (CA) n/t FreeState May 2013 #115

Up here (Oregon)... Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #133

Got my pitty girl from the NYC ACC dorkzilla May 2013 #55

+1000 darkangel218 May 2013 #60

You mean like this??? dorkzilla May 2013 #76

your link doesn't work nt/ alp227 May 2013 #148

they are popular because they are cheap and the poormans 'gun' a street status dog Sunlei May 2013 #155

and here, I mean cheap, 'poormans status' and keywords like this, heres a link Sunlei May 2013 #156

no arguments here La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #161

Something like 60% of fatal dog attacks are attributed to pits.. pipoman May 2013 #44

Humans kill too. darkangel218 May 2013 #47

LOL..no differences there, eh? FFS pipoman May 2013 #48

Whats the difference? darkangel218 May 2013 #50

LOL..again..We're talking about dogs here.. pipoman May 2013 #99

So the other species are just food for you? darkangel218 May 2013 #110

Apparently virtually everyone else in this thread sees it differently.. pipoman May 2013 #111

ROFL all you want. darkangel218 May 2013 #112

Not if I am paying to feed, care for and house them they don't..~snick~ pipoman May 2013 #113

So your parents paid to house and feed you. darkangel218 May 2013 #114

Absurdities.. pipoman May 2013 #117

No, its facts!! darkangel218 May 2013 #119

Sorry for the delayed response.. pipoman May 2013 #130

! randome May 2013 #135

Yeah, I know.. pipoman May 2013 #146

That's a lie. baldguy May 2013 #140

Look that the enormous amount in the shelters Marrah_G May 2013 #52

Look at the homeless/orphan children darkangel218 May 2013 #56

omg it's impossible to have a conversation with you. Marrah_G May 2013 #59

We are having a conversation, you just dont like what i have to say. darkangel218 May 2013 #62

replying with nonsensical responses is not the same as having a conversation. nt La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #81

My reaponse was right to the point. darkangel218 May 2013 #88

I think you prove the opposite of what you want to prove. quakerboy May 2013 #163

The OP and many others are focusing on pits only darkangel218 May 2013 #165

+1 nt Left2Tackle May 2013 #143

Agreed. ALL breeds. nt jazzimov May 2013 #151

There needs to be a screening process before adoption Cooley Hurd May 2013 #2

in addition to breeding restrictions or instead of? La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #5

Breeding restrictions are best across the spectrum... Cooley Hurd May 2013 #11

no debate there La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #13

They DO screen. But not well enough, it appears. Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #20

Most "adoptions" are from one individual to another and don't involve any type of screening. Arkansas Granny May 2013 #45

Its not the dogs from the shelters that are the problems most of the time Drale May 2013 #70

I would support restrictions tosh May 2013 #3

true enough La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #9

+100 G_j May 2013 #23

This quakerboy May 2013 #164

I don't like these breeds, but this is over reaching, IMO... cynatnite May 2013 #4

this is over reaching but breed specific legislation La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #6

I never said that.... cynatnite May 2013 #18

'Being held accountable' after the fact does no good when someone is maimed or killed. randome May 2013 #29

i know you never said it, i meant that i propose this La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #30

I understand. Thanks. n/t cynatnite May 2013 #42

First they came for the pitbulls... bunnies May 2013 #7

And there was no one left to woof. n/t Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #25

Yes BUT the restrictions need to be to protect the dogs. Drale May 2013 #10

yes, i am saying to protect the breed generally La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #12

And how are we going to do that? randome May 2013 #32

How do they enforce BSL laws? Drale May 2013 #38

Line of sight, I suppose. Public awareness and a central registry? randome May 2013 #43

There shouldn't be any banned breeds Drale May 2013 #46

Why? For the sake of consistency? randome May 2013 #54

Whose we? Drale May 2013 #61

If 'reactionary' means 'react to a dangerous situation', them I'm guilty as charged. randome May 2013 #65

"And I'd say the poll reflects the fact that more people would like restrictions Drale May 2013 #66

Who is 'we'? one_voice May 2013 #74

i dont know about others but while i was asking for pit bulls La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #78

I also agree with what others... one_voice May 2013 #90

And the next breed that causes this level of fear should then be banned, as well. randome May 2013 #91

No. If you let pit bulls die out then people will miss out on their exceptionalism. cui bono May 2013 #132

I don't believe that. Any dog can be a warm and loving companion. randome May 2013 #136

Any dog can be that. But in my experience Pitties are the best. cui bono May 2013 #139

Something else. I agree with the ASPCA position on BSL PeaceNikki May 2013 #14

Until it's established that the problem is the breeding whatchamacallit May 2013 #15

abuse is not equal to breeding La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #22

I believe the poster means that breed is a problem Drale May 2013 #71

I might support restrictions on breeding essentially all animals MH1 May 2013 #17

Let's say an animal from a "reputable breeder" is involved in an attack whatchamacallit May 2013 #21

yes, in as much as it was the owners fault La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #24

How is that established? whatchamacallit May 2013 #31

for instance if you broke into my house and my dog mauled you La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #34

How 'bout if I'm just out jogging? n/t whatchamacallit May 2013 #36

i think owners should have to pay damages or whatever La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #72

Act of Dog? whatchamacallit May 2013 #101

Have you seen some of the pictures of children mauled by pit bulls? randome May 2013 #116

Kind of what I would like to know. HappyMe May 2013 #83

In the case of death or maiming whatchamacallit May 2013 #102

Absolutely. HappyMe May 2013 #104

Why limit restrictions to just two breeds? sinkingfeeling May 2013 #26

many reasons La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #28

Don't buy it. The meanest dog and the only one to bite me was an Australian sinkingfeeling May 2013 #33

look at polls about how people feel about pits and look at communities La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #35

Look, I know you hate the non-breed, pit bull, but I don't recognize any sinkingfeeling May 2013 #40

how do you know i hate the pit bull? La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #49

Why do you suppose that is? whatchamacallit May 2013 #41

What happened when it bit you? XemaSab May 2013 #145

By sneaking up behind me, bit me on the back upper thigh and sinkingfeeling May 2013 #167

Ditto.... ohheckyeah May 2013 #158

Do you think pit bull are happy with a single nip? Boudica the Lyoness May 2013 #168

And 60% of human fatal dog attacks are attributed to pits.. pipoman May 2013 #100

no, but I support brutal punishment for owners who abuse ProdigalJunkMail May 2013 #27

Absolutely. The Link May 2013 #39

You just hate dogs. baldguy May 2013 #142

I would support restrictions on ALL breeding Marrah_G May 2013 #51

yes, i think people who equate this to orphan children or killer humans La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #77

yup Marrah_G May 2013 #80

Only as much as I do for every other dog breed, as well as mutts. GoCubsGo May 2013 #57

I toured our local animal shelter recently. Betsy Ross May 2013 #58

so true. i am not sure where you live but the NYC shelters in all 5 boros are La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #73

To underscore your point about the pits in NYC... dorkzilla May 2013 #92

yes, i wonder how many people think i was exaggerating La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #95

It's the same everywhere I think Marrah_G May 2013 #141

something else. 1. Laws about breeding dogs and cats generally magical thyme May 2013 #63

Yes with one caveat Tien1985 May 2013 #64

in essence i agree with you. in reality, i dont see that happening La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #69

The people element Tien1985 May 2013 #128

I support breeding restrictions on the people who train dogs to fight. Gidney N Cloyd May 2013 #68

I support breeding restrictions on people period. darkangel218 May 2013 #75

we do regulate ourself. we also dont breed ourselves to sell to profit La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #79

You couldnt be more wrong! we do not control our breeding! darkangel218 May 2013 #84

I'd support breeding restrictions for all breeds Fresh_Start May 2013 #82

Well said! hamsterjill May 2013 #87

The laws should be stricter for all breeds and all breeders. Jamastiene May 2013 #85

+100 darkangel218 May 2013 #89

no, all dog breeders should be restricted to 'reputable' breeders' Sunlei May 2013 #86

I would support a national id system for all dogs and require all dogs wear their tag. Sunlei May 2013 #94

Humans always get the dog they deserve? XemaSab May 2013 #147

people get the dog they deserve. Sunlei May 2013 #150

No. But I would pass laws that would make it a felony to allow anydog, capable of killing humans, to ladjf May 2013 #93

It is a felony if your dog kills someone. problem is no one claims ownership of strays. Sunlei May 2013 #96

Dogs in our neighborhood are required to register their dog's DNA with shows also ownership. nt ladjf May 2013 #109

I think it's easier to use a scanner for a microchip,shelters,animal control and Vets have scanners. Sunlei May 2013 #157

another point is, dog fighting is a misdemeanor charge in some states, should be a felony. Sunlei May 2013 #98

yes I would also support imposing restrictions gopiscrap May 2013 #97

No demwing May 2013 #103

Just checking LostOne4Ever May 2013 #105

no, not proposing banning. infact proposing this because banning a breed is just weird La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #125

I'll give you this LLP whatchamacallit May 2013 #106

I support restrictions on breeding most purebred animals. Zoeisright May 2013 #107

Yes. nt clarice May 2013 #108

Restrict just those two breeds and unreputable breeders will move on to other breeds Gormy Cuss May 2013 #118

this is a really good point. nt La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #120

I voted yes. RebelOne May 2013 #123

Other: Fully crack down on the underground fight scene... Blue_Tires May 2013 #124

Yep. And if they're selling dogs on Craig's List, crackdown on that too. cui bono May 2013 #134

oh hell yea, and I would go farther and ban the things quinnox May 2013 #129

Another thing that is proved even more every day somewhere in America cui bono May 2013 #131

How many times does this have to be said: the breed isn't the problem. The people are. baldguy May 2013 #137

except it does to dogs in that breed. hence responsible breeding + screening of ownerse La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #138

Prosecute owners of dogs that bite and hurt someone. Left2Tackle May 2013 #144

I voted no, but SteveG May 2013 #149

I vote to restrict all breeding as long as any dogs Live and Learn May 2013 #152

Winning answer. Close the thread. flvegan May 2013 #154

No, I don't want a dog that is someones else's breeding mistake. Boudica the Lyoness May 2013 #170

Breeding mistake??? Live and Learn May 2013 #171

Only if they're breeding them at Olive Garden. kentauros May 2013 #159

I voted no for one reason TorchTheWitch May 2013 #160

I support banning all breeding. roody May 2013 #162

I support reputable breeding for all breeds of all domestic animals. LWolf May 2013 #166

Yep, restrict it for all breeds - until the shelters are empty. (nt) ehrnst May 2013 #169