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In reply to the discussion: Gun Ownership Neither Increases Nor Decreases the Crime Rate [View all]Recursion
(56,582 posts)63. So, yes, Hartsfield and Bezerow can both have done that. Like I said I'm running it for G-8 and G-20
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Which I have done before, and I doubt the data have changed much in the past 2 years. Will post in a few.
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There have been more Americans killed by gun violence in the last decade than in every
Bandit
Apr 2013
#6
Fair enough. Like I said, we're more violent than the regression would suggest we "should" be
Recursion
Apr 2013
#15
So because you personally have not destroyed any humans, none could possibly have been destroyed?
Bandit
Apr 2013
#11
When data contradicts "common sense", what you thought was "common sense" was wrong
Taitertots
Apr 2013
#25
How convenient... Only analysis and data that you agree with is "Real evidence".
Taitertots
Apr 2013
#64
We live in the most peaceful era in human history, including before guns existed
Taitertots
Apr 2013
#94
Hilarious. Just claim that anything that disagrees with your ideology is just made up
Taitertots
Apr 2013
#103
All the world is now an NRAtalkingPoint (TM). If you don't agree with the data.
Eleanors38
Apr 2013
#91
Congratulations, you're the most perfect example of confirmation bias I've seen.
Donald Ian Rankin
Apr 2013
#114
If there was NO guns, the murder rate in the USA would be lower. No doubt. Guns.....
Logical
Apr 2013
#20
So you really think if there was no guns just as many murders would be carried out with knifes, etc?
Logical
Apr 2013
#27
Again, that's what those data show. Gun deaths would go way, way down, but not homicides.
Recursion
Apr 2013
#29
Yes, it does. Do you ever wonder why the peer reviewed research comes to the opposite conclusion
DanTex
Apr 2013
#26
I'm doing the G-8 and the G-20 right now (I've done them before, too) I'll post in a minute
Recursion
Apr 2013
#60
Another good group is OECD. The problem with G-20 is it includes places like China and Russia,
DanTex
Apr 2013
#68
Fot the top 30 in human development index, I was able to find data for 27 countries.
DanTex
Apr 2013
#81
So there's a statistically significant positive correlation between gun ownership and homicide rates
DanTex
Apr 2013
#84
Umm, yes I did. Unless my stats software is broken, or I entered the data wrong (a possibility),
DanTex
Apr 2013
#88
Who cares that the "homicide by firearm" rate goes down if the "homicide by any means" rate doesn't?
Recursion
Apr 2013
#34
He says he excluded the same countries for the same reasons. I suppose he could be lying
Recursion
Apr 2013
#45
Because there is no statistically significant effect of guns on non-gun homicide.
DanTex
Apr 2013
#46
Interesting data. Wish they could isolate crime rates amongst gun owners only.
geckosfeet
Apr 2013
#37
Even that's possibly confounded. Does owning a gun make you more likely to be killed...
Recursion
Apr 2013
#48
Seriously??! You're going to split hairs between guns with clips and assault rifles?
El Fuego
Apr 2013
#80
Ummm... yes. That's not "splitting hairs". Cho used handguns. Ordinary handguns
Recursion
Apr 2013
#82
Ah, the "people on the left." You're expressing aggravation with those "people on the left."
El Fuego
Apr 2013
#102
No "aggravation," just a little dismay. But you may not be on the left yourself, so...
Eleanors38
Apr 2013
#105
LOL. Oh, I get it. The guy who wrote this is a right-winger who wrote a book about
DanTex
Apr 2013
#44
Right, because a person with an agenda can't tweak a regression to get the result they want.
DanTex
Apr 2013
#52
So, yes, Hartsfield and Bezerow can both have done that. Like I said I'm running it for G-8 and G-20
Recursion
Apr 2013
#63
I have a hard time believing that the "success" rate for other weapons would be as high as guns. n-t
Logical
Apr 2013
#67
LOL, machine guns also, who cares. A handgun is a gun. I do not think as many murders would happen..
Logical
Apr 2013
#75
The increase in suicides when firearms are available is, however, basically undeniable
Recursion
Apr 2013
#74
The negative effect of the guns is partially mitigated by our standard of living.
lumberjack_jeff
Apr 2013
#112
LOL, people here react on emotion, this funny math thing will not persuade them
pediatricmedic
Apr 2013
#89
Well, so much for the hallowed position of math/science in some "progressive" circles.
Eleanors38
Apr 2013
#101
LOL. You guys crack me up with your pseudoscience. That's not a "Harvard study".
DanTex
Apr 2013
#121
Still waiting to hear a legal scholar who agrees with your "collective rights" theory.
former9thward
Apr 2013
#122