It's very simple: If you want new gun control laws, you need the cooperation of legal gun owners.

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105. A crusade?

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First of all, your notion that gun owners read something on DU and that turned REPUBLICAN Senators and four Ds off a completely innocuous bill is ludicrous. That you continue to throw unfounded insults in the context of this defeat is repulsive. People are going to keep dying, and you are playing some sort of twisted game. You show no understanding of the content or process of this legislation or concern for the lives that are gong to be lost. The idea that what some posts here has any influence on a senate vote is laughable, and it's hard to believe anyone is actually that uninformed.

Moreover, if as you claim you really do support background checks, you wouldn't be grave dancing. That you are doing so shows that you are far less concerned about the loss of life than the fact that people disagree with you. Perhaps you feel entitled because you have a bruised ego from voicing unpopular views on guns on a Democratic site. But this isn't about you or me. Criminals are going to continue to get access to guns because of this defeat--because that is the purpose of evading background checks--and that could as easily strike you or someone you care about as anyone else. If having others validate your views is really so important to you, you don't have to read or post somewhere where people don't worship guns above human life. But to claim what people said on DU has anything to do with this legislation--when the facts are obvious that this was far from all or nothing--shows you are full of it.

I don't believe ONE word you are saying. Not one. It doesn't make one bit of sense. You obviously are more concerned with yourself than anything else because these comments are all about the fact you're mad because people here dare to take a position that differs from yours. I have nothing against gun owners. I do, however, have a great deal against zealots who ignore reality and put their own selfish interests above human life. Lots of gun owners, most gun owners in fact, backed this legislation and are angry today. They aren't rubbing others' faces in the defeat over some bizarre concern for their own ego. They are instead worried about the lost lives that will result from the corporate gun lobby's control over our government and the complete erosion of democracy.

That you hold such views and don't even own guns (if that is even true) is even more bizarre. Just where do you get your "news" anyway? You lack of knowledge of this legislation is appalling.