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cthulu2016

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3. Nazis and Stalinists on one end. People who pretty much don't exist on the other end.

Tue Apr 16, 2013, 06:49 PM

Apr 2013

Yes, the terrors of anarchy are what people in the USA should be worried about. It is such a constant danger for us.

Just the other day I walked 100 feet wihout close observation by anyone.

God only knows what I might have done. I shudder to even contemplate it.

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Authoritarianism is a sickness. [View all] cthulu2016 Apr 2013 OP

And the best research was reported by a lifelong Republican, turned Independant. longship Apr 2013 #1

He signed a book for me when he spoke with Michael Moore at Wadsworth Theater pinboy3niner Apr 2013 #9

Bob Altemeyer's book The Authoritarians is available free online. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #77

Authoritarianism is one end of a continuum with the opposite geek tragedy Apr 2013 #2

Nazis and Stalinists on one end. People who pretty much don't exist on the other end. cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #3

Yes, but paradoxically any workable system has to include elements geek tragedy Apr 2013 #5

Those nations aren't examples of anarchy. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #13

And let's not forget... Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #19

Wouldn't dare ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #20

I've read this little book called geek tragedy Apr 2013 #22

In the context of this discussion it is an incorrect use for a word that has many meanings Dragonfli Apr 2013 #32

Oh dear, you've confused yourself so much that you're arguing with yourself. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #37

You still don't understand the context, or how I did not "argue with myself" Dragonfli Apr 2013 #42

Authoritarianism is more than a belief system--it is a real world practice and phenomenon. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #64

Would you say that there are no authoritarian structures in Somalia? Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #103

For the umpteenth time, I'm really not interested in discussing anarchism. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #104

It appears that you're not even interested in defending your own context, either. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #105

Again, I am incorrect only if I accept your definition of anarchy geek tragedy Apr 2013 #106

You're incorrect according to the context you provided in your original assertion. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #107

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Sorry that it chafes you that I won't submit geek tragedy Apr 2013 #110

Applying dictionary definitions ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #44

I am not interested in your 'counting angels on the head geek tragedy Apr 2013 #48

I'm not interested in your ignorance, either ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #60

You're conflating anarchism the theory and anarchy as it exists in the real world. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #61

Yet, you haven't read anything I've provided Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #81

"which is not a synonym for chaos or disorder, according to application or theory" geek tragedy Apr 2013 #87

You're arguing anarchy with an authoritarian. Your head will stop hurting once you quit Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #54

No, he's arguing anarchy with a non-anarchist. You use the term "authoritarian" geek tragedy Apr 2013 #63

No, I am very familiar with what you've written on a variety of topics and the positions you Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #71

Yes, you disagree with what I write therefore I am an authoritarian. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #73

You might have noticed that I didn't reply to you, I offered Fantastic Anarchist some friendly Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #78

Heh, you interpret disagrement as "attempts to exercise your own imagined authority." geek tragedy Apr 2013 #80

I think that I should have taken your advice. It is greatly appreciated. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #85

It's easy to get wrapped up in it. I usually do it myself, but life has recently compelled me Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #94

Much peace to you, as well. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #99

A Teabagger uses the term socialism completely out of context. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #83

Anarchists do not have the exclusive authority and power to define the word 'anarchy' geek tragedy Apr 2013 #90

Ahh, didn't you just chastise someone else for them calling you an authoritarian? Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #92

I didn't say you were authoritarian, I said that asserting one's own viewpoint geek tragedy Apr 2013 #96

Sigh ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #100

Thanks for the book recommendation Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #55

It's an extremely great read. Way ahead of his time. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #93

Linear social and cultural constructs are usually so simplistic as to be false. Hissyspit Apr 2013 #10

You're saying anarchism is on the same continuum as authoritarianism? Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #11

What's on the opposite end of whatever continuum geek tragedy Apr 2013 #12

Bonus Bonus Question: Where are you getting that Somalia is "anarchy?" Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #17

Somalia fits the definition of the word "anarchy" as it is understood geek tragedy Apr 2013 #23

With all due respect, It is only understood that way by stupid or uneducated people Dragonfli Apr 2013 #27

Yes, only stupid people associate words with their commonly understood meaning geek tragedy Apr 2013 #34

You don't even understand the context of the discussion do you? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #43

Had I been talking about the academic definition geek tragedy Apr 2013 #50

No, it is not understood that way by the English-speaking world. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #45

I understand the No True Scotsman logical fallacy you are geek tragedy Apr 2013 #47

No one is applying the "No True Scotsman logical fallacy" ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #79

What you do not understand is that anarchy is not dependent upon the geek tragedy Apr 2013 #82

No, you don't understand that anarchy doesn't apply to Somalia. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #91

There is order in Somalia? geek tragedy Apr 2013 #95

Are you being obtuse? Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #101

Excuse my butting in here Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #57

Psychologically, it's simply a personality trait Marr Apr 2013 #36

As used in psychology, it's heavily infused with political and cultural assumptions. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #39

Yeah, They align with whatever represents the traditional power structure... Marr Apr 2013 #40

I think there has been generous discussion Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #4

That was called WWII. Occulus Apr 2013 #6

One of my favorite flowcharts of Left vs. Right... derby378 Apr 2013 #7

The only thing they are truly experts on would be the dynamics of slack Dragonfli Apr 2013 #24

Created by child abuse. Gregorian Apr 2013 #8

Ceausescu? n/t backscatter712 Apr 2013 #14

Yep. vanlassie Apr 2013 #33

+1,000,000,000!!! backscatter712 Apr 2013 #15

Corporatism and authoritarianism go hand in hand. woo me with science Apr 2013 #16

Exactly. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #18

Terribly true TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #30

US authoritarian politicians are apparently more likely to be conservative, and be republicans. Zorra Apr 2013 #86

I had a professor once during my college days... KansDem Apr 2013 #98

I believe the authoritarian is a child that fears that their own lack of impulse control is the Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #21

Most nu-dems and third wayers infesting this board are rabid authoritarians whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #25

Don't think it's just that myself, TBH. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #29

What would you characterize as an authoritarian, non-Third Way sort of post? Marr Apr 2013 #38

That's funny... Bobbie Jo Apr 2013 #56

Ha, if contributing money and voting for the man twice whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #58

dehumanizing rhetoric shows which side you're on carolinayellowdog Apr 2013 #62

Indeed. Bobbie Jo Apr 2013 #68

Game, set, match. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #75

invasion, not infestation, is what it feels like carolinayellowdog Apr 2013 #67

Not true at all treestar Apr 2013 #69

Personally, I think the president mostly does whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #70

Yeah right. treestar Apr 2013 #72

"Infesting" is a dehumanizing term, itself a hallmark of authoritarian thought. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #74

Malignant Narcissism lunatica Apr 2013 #26

Ever since I read about the Milgram experiment, I agree. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #28

A man in the UK OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #108

Yes. nt Zorra Apr 2013 #31

how dare you bring this topic up on DU? do you want the Republicans to win? MNBrewer Apr 2013 #35

The human element mick063 Apr 2013 #41

Sadomasochistic elements described by Erich Fromm carolinayellowdog Apr 2013 #46

Your excellent post reminds me of the times I have seen support for idea of 'benevolent dictators' pampango Apr 2013 #51

thanks for your excellent original post; I was merely quoting Erich Fromm carolinayellowdog Apr 2013 #59

From you excellent post TM99 Apr 2013 #89

thanks for the titles suggestions; I've been an admirer based on secondary sources carolinayellowdog Apr 2013 #102

Ask 5 people what it means, and we get eleven different answers LanternWaste Apr 2013 #49

Yep. nt redqueen Apr 2013 #52

Just like "socialism" would be used on Free Republic. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #65

Thank You. For some any authority impinging on someone's right to do anything they please KittyWampus Apr 2013 #66

Yes it is, and one of the worst aspects, as with many sicknesses, is that people who have it... slackmaster Apr 2013 #53

. snagglepuss Apr 2013 #76

I would label it a mind virus, like evangelical Christianity and Fundamentalist anything Taverner Apr 2013 #84

Fundamentalism is definitely a mind virus. Initech Apr 2013 #97

I prefer Altemeyer's definition of authoritarianism. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #88

Parents often pass authoritarianism onto their children. hunter Apr 2013 #109

all my siblings are as anti-authoritarian as I, which fits the historical legacy carolinayellowdog Apr 2013 #111