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In reply to the discussion: Obama's support for Social Security cuts allows GOP leaders to become defenders of safety nets. [View all]patrice
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that reward people for staying home in 2014, IOW, "My way or the highway" and the highway IS what you and everything that you want (which, BTW, is pretty much exactly what I want too) are going to get.
The ends DO NOT justify the means and when YOUR means hurt people who did not get a chance to make their own free choices about the pain that YOU are delivering, that makes you no better than the oppressor you claim to be struggling against.
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Read up on alternative energy news, madfloridian, NOTHING is going to work except: 1. GET RID OF A BUNCH OF PEOPLE (& I'll give you just one guess who THAT'S going to be); and/or 2. As many people as possible need to move in together to reduce and share energy resources.
WHICH of those two solutions is quicker and more feasible politically and economically?
OBVIOUSLY 1. is, so that's what destruction of the basically socialistically* inclined "democracy" that we have going on right now will produce and destruction of the socialistically inclined "democracy" (that IS being fucked over by corporate personhood) is what will be delivered by what calls itself "the Left", under the AUTHORITARIAN influence of Libertarians and Anarchists, WILL DELIVER.
Mark my words, there ARE those amongst what calls itself "the Left" who see 1. as a perfectly justifiable means to the end of "saving Earth" and oh so coincidentally, themselves, which they'll actually fail at because they and their very own citizens of the archipelagos will throw away so much value that it is possible that what comes next also will not be viable, or it will be viable for less and less and less and richer and richer and richer people, eating up yet another whole class of SERFS, until Earth's climate stabilizes.
In short, what calls itself "the Left" is selling BULLSHIT under popular marketing labels directed at younger generations' responses to FADS. It's another "man behind the curtain" with its own objectives that you and a bunch of other people are ASSUMING are the same as yours and, whereas some short term stuff may look satisfactory to you, the END GAME is the same as the 1%'s. They're just buying a different set of serfs.
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What we need is TIME! Time to make 2. happen and people who pedal propaganda from what calls itself "the Left" and actively promote staying home in 2014, or working AGAINST Democrats, ARE THROWING AT LEAST A COUPLE OF DECADES AWAY. They are not admitting that. You're supposed to believe "Presto Chango = Egalitarian Paradise with exactly whatever your dreams are about all of that in full effect." Don't believe me? Press them on these issues and see how much you're included with the in-kids "Leftie" hipsters after you ask the wrong QUESTIONS.
Just like the oppressor, what calls itself "the Left" will tell you whatever you want to hear AND very likely WILL fail at what they say they are up to anyway, because whatever they create will STILL run on nothing but MONEY and OIL.
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* And if you doubt that we are a socialistically inclined "democracy", look up figures on how many people in the entire population receive some form of GOVERNMENT/TAX money of somekind (haven't seen this stuff for a while, but I recall it being something close to a quarter of all individuals, throw in the way that we subsidize Wall Street and we have nearly full on socialism going on, socialism that's schizoid because of capitalist leeches who are LYING about how things work). I'm NOT against individuals receiving government support, but ours is a WARPED kind of socialism, with the WRONG kind of power structures because of FLAWS IN OUR CONSTITUTION that allow things like government subsidized Corporate Personhood LIARS, so the socialism is tilted toward corporations, and gets called capitalism, a lie (hence the Libertarian angst).
Do you think we should throw away ALL of the ground we have gained and start over with nothing? That's what calls itself "the Left" wants and it has it's own corporate persons to make that happen.