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hack89

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56. You need the support of those gun owners to pass "rational" gun control

Wed Apr 10, 2013, 09:27 PM

Apr 2013

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so make a choice - demonize them or find some common ground.

This is just like presidential elections - the battle is for those critical votes in the middle. If you can't peel away enough gun owners from the NRA then you will fail.

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Biden Directly Confronts NRA and 'Black Helicopter Crowd' as Gun Deal Looms [View all] Robb Apr 2013 OP

Tell 'em, Joe. 'Unworkable federal database?' freshwest Apr 2013 #1

+1. My new mantra: "As usual, the NRA and the RWers are lying about everything." FSogol Apr 2013 #14

Kicked and Recommending! sheshe2 Apr 2013 #2

Joe minces no words... Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #3

That's the best he can do? aikoaiko Apr 2013 #4

Joe's doing exponentially a hellava lot better than cheap pot shot Cha Apr 2013 #5

In time you will see the error of having Joe Biden lead this effort. aikoaiko Apr 2013 #6

Because you want Biden to work with the NRA. Robb Apr 2013 #8

Because the alternative doesn't appear to be working? hack89 Apr 2013 #10

I know this is unclear in your mind, but most gun owners are not NRA members. Robb Apr 2013 #11

I know that very well - I have said it here constantly hack89 Apr 2013 #13

When you stop defending the NRA, fewer people will accuse you of defending the NRA. Robb Apr 2013 #40

When you stop equating any dissent from your agenda with support for the NRA hack89 Apr 2013 #50

But does it matter whether those other gun owners are NRA or not? They BENEFIT from the NRA & they patrice Apr 2013 #53

You need the support of those gun owners to pass "rational" gun control hack89 Apr 2013 #56

92% of Americans kurtzapril4 Apr 2013 #20

Not talking about universal background checks hack89 Apr 2013 #21

No form of gun control, up to and including a blanket ban, would pose a threat to gun owners. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #41

If we want to keep our guns, it would hack89 Apr 2013 #48

Not "work with" so much as "persuade". aikoaiko Apr 2013 #22

Wait -- can you clarify this for me? Raine1967 Apr 2013 #29

The idea that the Fed (eta: Federal Govt) would like a registration is not just Black helicopter aikoaiko Apr 2013 #33

Enlighten me madokie Apr 2013 #17

Those gun nuts are extremely delicate flowers Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #59

I guess it depends on how committed one is getting gun control reform through congress. aikoaiko Apr 2013 #61

Between this, and Biden saying the dread totemic phrase "New World Order" Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #7

What would make you think that, Warren? rdharma Apr 2013 #12

That would be quite a sight to see PatSeg Apr 2013 #15

Beware. I can post the video. freshwest Apr 2013 #19

I'd best use my imagination PatSeg Apr 2013 #25

Imagine a shapeshifting version of TAZ with many more voices, that's the one. freshwest Apr 2013 #27

He's a strange one PatSeg Apr 2013 #42

I was thinking the same thing. Raine1967 Apr 2013 #30

Hell, I'm old enough to remember when the Illuminati threat was Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #34

Both parties lost them after Waco. They're Left-Teas and Right-Teas now. freshwest Apr 2013 #43

Sure made his fans here flip out. Just sayin' freshwest Apr 2013 #47

K gateley Apr 2013 #9

My son lives in Delaware mountain grammy Apr 2013 #16

Me, too! hamsterjill Apr 2013 #18

Friends in Delaware mainstreetonce Apr 2013 #24

Is that why they kept sending him back to the Senate for all those years? gateley Apr 2013 #28

I love my son dearly, but sometimes he an idiot..he got it from his father. mountain grammy Apr 2013 #32

! patrice Apr 2013 #54

Biden does what the bankers want. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #36

Look, I don't agree with the man all the time. He voted for NAFTA and a few other things mountain grammy Apr 2013 #60

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #62

Kinda crazy? EC Apr 2013 #23

That was pretty awesome... but... Lane1340 Apr 2013 #26

Welcome to DU... Raine1967 Apr 2013 #31

Now we know. The bankers favor demonizing firearm-owning Democrats, the NRA, and the AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #35

The "black helicopter crowd" thing must hit a nerve. Robb Apr 2013 #37

Illogical, once again. But that's to be expected. Can't you come up with anything better? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #38

I know! Robb Apr 2013 #39

This thread brought a little sunlight to DU. freshwest Apr 2013 #45

Much like your post hoc ergo prompter hoc premise. LanternWaste Apr 2013 #57

Whaaaa???? Rex Apr 2013 #46

Since YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE raising an issue about Biden putting or not putting banksters in AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #51

Operation Anything But Guns. Robb Apr 2013 #52

Joe don't put up with the bullshit from the NRA. Rex Apr 2013 #44

JOE = SECRET WEAPON! flamingdem Apr 2013 #49

Remember, the "black helicopter crowd" were Bush's chief cheerleaders. Dawson Leery Apr 2013 #55

K&R SunSeeker Apr 2013 #58

I will always love me some Joe Biden!! tartan2 Apr 2013 #63