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HiPointDem

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305. touching nicotine doesn't poison you. neither does breathing clothes with smoke smell in them.

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 08:37 PM

Apr 2013

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parents who smoke are *not* "poisoning their children every time they touch them," & to tell them they are is both cruel and irresponsible.

furthermore, it doesn't help them quit, and neither does the doctor's bedside manner.

more likely to make them go out and smoke a half-pack to calm down after being around such a jerk.

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no more, no less. a pediatrician looks at ALL parents as POTENTIAL abusers. [View all] seabeyond Apr 2013 OP

The same applies today to a woman being treated for an injury in an ER. appleannie1 Apr 2013 #1

I don't think it is. Aristus Apr 2013 #2

abuse can take many forms.. Voice for Peace Apr 2013 #12

I wouldn't be a very ethical medical provider if I said: Aristus Apr 2013 #86

yes I understand Voice for Peace Apr 2013 #91

"I stopped being polite years ago." = the doctor *is* angering and discouraging them, & personally HiPointDem Apr 2013 #106

Truth-tellers are often called idiots. We live with it. Aristus Apr 2013 #122

yes, poor you, truth-telling in the wilderness. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #142

That's okay; I'm not lonely or anything. Aristus Apr 2013 #150

a question Voice for Peace Apr 2013 #245

I do talk about the importance of proper nutrition and the importance Aristus Apr 2013 #248

yes, a lot of company, including the US government. which is why my comment was sarcastic. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #283

Incivility to smokers is simply incivility returned. Aristus Apr 2013 #286

bullshit. few smokers puff directly into other people's faces and puffing smoke into the air has HiPointDem Apr 2013 #288

One doesn't need to puff in my face. Aristus Apr 2013 #293

oh wah wah. and smokers don't "inevitably" "toss the butts out in a shower of sparks" either. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #304

Nicotine is not a carcinogen, as to its potency as a poison Drahthaardogs Apr 2013 #275

Nice bit of mis-direction, there. Aristus Apr 2013 #277

You said it was a poison, Drahthaardogs Apr 2013 #278

One could argue that a lot of the things that we voluntarily put into our bodies Aristus Apr 2013 #282

You can die of WATER intoxication Drahthaardogs Apr 2013 #287

My, this rings a bell! You remind me one of my favorite DU smoking threads, ever! msanthrope Apr 2013 #130

abuse can take the form of a doctor using his position of power to berate and demean his HiPointDem Apr 2013 #292

Side question... Totally unrelated... Sharpie Apr 2013 #48

No. As long as they didn't get offended when I replied: Aristus Apr 2013 #85

Do you ask them about alcohol, drugs, especially prescription drugs they have lying around sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #93

I have different ways of asking. Aristus Apr 2013 #100

No way you are a physician of any sort. You are not the provider, and it is not 'your clinic'. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #314

ok. you hate smoking. in the way I dislike fast driving.seriously? Smokers shouldn't be parents? robinlynne Apr 2013 #64

This isn't the first time I've had smokers complain because they are, in a sense, Aristus Apr 2013 #89

I wouldn't take my kid to a self-righteous prick. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #97

No need. Aristus Apr 2013 #101

Comrade Grumpy wasn't being a prick. kurtzapril4 Apr 2013 #367

Neither would I Progressive dog Apr 2013 #115

No need. Sissyk Apr 2013 #195

So you don't mind smoke getting blown into YOUR face then? alp227 Apr 2013 #259

is the patient smoking in the doctor's office? no? then the doctor is not getting smoke blown in HiPointDem Apr 2013 #295

OK, it is possible to wash nicotine off clothing. alp227 Apr 2013 #303

touching nicotine doesn't poison you. neither does breathing clothes with smoke smell in them. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #305

Hate to break it to you, Smokey, Aristus Apr 2013 #308

irrelevant to my post, which said: touching someone with nicotine on your fingers doesn't poison HiPointDem Apr 2013 #310

But I don't want to be exposed to nicotine, neither should you. alp227 Apr 2013 #313

you don't have to be. nicotine on one's fingers and cigarette smell in one's clothing isn't 2nd-hand HiPointDem Apr 2013 #317

If not in that sense, alp227 Apr 2013 #322

is it a bad influence to have judgmental hysterics for parents? how about to have judgmental, HiPointDem Apr 2013 #326

Who blows smoke in their kid's faces? kurtzapril4 Apr 2013 #368

I Bet RobinA Apr 2013 #78

Smokers don't care who they kill. Aristus Apr 2013 #88

Here's What I'M Bleating About RobinA Apr 2013 #104

I'm not a pediatrician. I'm a primary care provider. And a Physician Assistant, not a doctor. Aristus Apr 2013 #110

I wish someone would have said that to my parents when I was a kid. KitSileya Apr 2013 #116

I never tell my patients that quitting is going to be easy. Nicotine is the most addictive substance Aristus Apr 2013 #127

"I've seen my mother try to quit many times" = someone apparently *did* tell her that, & she HiPointDem Apr 2013 #298

I heard you're a medical assistant, not a PA. There's a big difference. If you're doing the HiPointDem Apr 2013 #345

You've been misinformed. I'm a Physician Assistant. Aristus Apr 2013 #362

it doesn't matter to me; you're still a medical provider giving false information to patients. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #363

It's too bad you think cigarette smoking does no harm. Aristus Apr 2013 #364

it's funny you can't address my actual criticism; your claim that smokers poison their children HiPointDem Apr 2013 #365

Re-read everything this poster has said. It is simply telling people THE TRUTH about their actions. KittyWampus Apr 2013 #240

no; the doctor is telling lies to his patients. it's a *lie* that parents who smoke are HiPointDem Apr 2013 #296

He's not a doctor. He's a medical assistant; takes BP, makes notes ... REP Apr 2013 #338

this guy is a *medical assistant*? & he's running his mouth telling people they're poisoning their HiPointDem Apr 2013 #341

A medical assistant at a low-income clinic, at that. REP Apr 2013 #343

If that's the case, even worse than i thought. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #344

+1. it's about power displays, not helping anyone. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #297

No kidding! kurtzapril4 Apr 2013 #369

idiotic. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #107

Pill poppers don't care either and since the whole country seems to be on pills of one sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #109

I've heard that before: Aristus Apr 2013 #131

Same can be said of the air we breathe every day. Plenty of non smokers sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #137

The crux of your arguement seems to be that the very air can kill you. Aristus Apr 2013 #147

The longest living people I've ever known, have been the least likely to stress and obsess sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #266

If you'll re-read my posts carefully, you'll notice I never said smoking was the only hazard to Aristus Apr 2013 #267

Then we are not in disagreement. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #268

I do. Aristus Apr 2013 #271

My fil is a diabetic and I helped take care of him for while after the death of my mil. He sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #272

Thank you. Aristus Apr 2013 #274

Thank you, I am glad also as I got to know a very special person. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #335

you weren't *talking* about smokers, you were talking about smokers who poisoned their HiPointDem Apr 2013 #300

You seem to have left your compassion by the wayside. Chemisse Apr 2013 #197

As you have already picked up, it's getting harder and harder for me to be compassionate on this Aristus Apr 2013 #234

How do you know kurtzapril4 Apr 2013 #370

Being honest isn't being insulting. And it's very, very telling so many DU'ers confuse the two. KittyWampus Apr 2013 #243

being honest *is* insulting when you do it rudely. as the doctor admits he does. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #301

idiotic. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #105

oh good gawd. ceile Apr 2013 #117

You must not read very much. Aristus Apr 2013 #140

take the self righteous bit somewhere else. ceile Apr 2013 #170

You were interested enough to comment. Aristus Apr 2013 #182

well, yes, smoking is bad auntsue Apr 2013 #346

Your comment about the woman who put off going to the Dr really hit home nadine_mn Apr 2013 #372

I don't think it's extreme, as long as the doctor's concern isn't extreme Voice for Peace Apr 2013 #3

here is another perfectly good example. a vet. a vet looks at the client as a potential abuser. seabeyond Apr 2013 #4

It's fine if they know how to use the training. In my case it wasn't a vet, just a friend Voice for Peace Apr 2013 #14

I'm curious. How do you benefit from child abusers? UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #5

you have an issue about the discussion on that thread, follow every poster that understood seabeyond Apr 2013 #7

Are you lost? Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #63

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And this has something to do with doctors Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #221

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Well, obviously that's the case for some.... Sekhmets Daughter Apr 2013 #232

Exactly. This OP was for the purpose of justifying the "all men are potential rapists" debacle. pacalo Apr 2013 #349

What I find sad chervilant Apr 2013 #250

It's a poor way to go about your job. cali Apr 2013 #6

it is simple to me cali. i guess it is not to others. not gonna fight over this. OP clear. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #8

"Being vigilant doesn't de facto signify looking at all parents as potential abusers." redqueen Apr 2013 #31

When my 4 month old laundry_queen Apr 2013 #325

I was shocked and dismayed one day when our family doctor enough Apr 2013 #9

i have always appreciated it and never felt affronted by it. but, this is a very good example. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #10

Growing up my mother always said abelenkpe Apr 2013 #69

That's an interesting story, abelenkpe. I wonder how your mother enough Apr 2013 #371

Thom Hartmann had a debate about that topic 2 years back alp227 Apr 2013 #315

Sometimes people do need a wakeup call. Warpy Apr 2013 #358

Maybe if there are signs of abuse whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #11

abuse does not always have visible signs. you would really want doctors to ignore this? not me. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #13

No but whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #15

assuming a possibility allows for a question. it is not assuming guilt. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #16

I think there's a fine line between the doctor being alert and informed, Voice for Peace Apr 2013 #17

then at that point a client has the choice to say, screw that doctor, i will find a different one. seabeyond Apr 2013 #18

Not all abuse is physical. Wait Wut Apr 2013 #52

I can't argue with that whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #61

and that is all a woman is saying. better safe than sorry. again, no more or no less than that. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #74

seabeyond whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #83

I don't want to be placed in that group simply because I'm a man. seabeyond Apr 2013 #87

Cool whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #96

I am glad you broke the circle, then KitSileya Apr 2013 #70

There are obstacles all along the way siligut Apr 2013 #19

true all that which has nothing to do with the OP. but ya. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #20

Yes, a pediatrician suspects abuse siligut Apr 2013 #56

The only time I felt that anyone looked at me as a potential abuser was when my daughter Arkansas Granny Apr 2013 #21

did he ask the kid about his diet, how much exercise, tv.... and knowing you as a parent, yes, seabeyond Apr 2013 #23

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #58

Haha, same! LittleBlue Apr 2013 #186

somebody can't alert in GD for 24 hours Kali Apr 2013 #22

jury is almost always intersting. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #25

All women are potential child murderers. Marr Apr 2013 #24

no. it is not. when are a couple percentage higher in baby murder up to a year older. then men seabeyond Apr 2013 #26

Yes, men suck whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #29

fuckin for real? what, i should lie, pretend otherwise, not challenge soemthing incorrect or seabeyond Apr 2013 #32

I'm not stomping away whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #38

because i give FACTs = manhater. this is your cutting to chase? have at it hoss. seabeyond Apr 2013 #41

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No, you're just playing phone psychic, but without the phone. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #129

Sure whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #132

I read down thread, and I apologize for what I previously said Squinch Apr 2013 #290

You have nothing to apologize for whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #307

Thank you for your great graciousness. Squinch Apr 2013 #311

Not graciousness really whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #312

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Haha fixed n/t whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #36

you cannot argue so you go to your easy, man hater and grammar. brilliant. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #39

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Pure genius. nt WinniSkipper Apr 2013 #57

I find we often minimize or trivialize the irrelevant.. LanternWaste Apr 2013 #73

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Thanks for the lulz! EOTE Apr 2013 #178

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Wow. That was pretty childish and mean spirited. bettyellen Apr 2013 #201

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The thread is actually informative... bettyellen Apr 2013 #208

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Carry on mocking DUers.... bettyellen Apr 2013 #217

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Yet you didn't realize this was about your EQ? bettyellen Apr 2013 #242

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Another point off for comprehension! bettyellen Apr 2013 #258

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It's kind of sad that you take people explaining concepts bettyellen Apr 2013 #263

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Funniest thing I`ve read all week! opiate69 Apr 2013 #320

... pacalo Apr 2013 #354

That's your argument? Marr Apr 2013 #44

giving facts is not " vehemently-stated" nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #51

Haha, sure. Marr Apr 2013 #53

religious women. all potential child murderers snooper2 Apr 2013 #75

I don't see it that way. Post-partum psychosis is a very serious condition. redqueen Apr 2013 #40

wait, a pedestrian does what? Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #27

thank you for the correct spelling. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #28

Do they remind you and others of this? The Straight Story Apr 2013 #30

you would be wrong. 2-3% of rapes are false claims per U.S., england and australia. seabeyond Apr 2013 #35

Ah...and how many parents actually abuse their kids? How many with guns hurt others? The Straight Story Apr 2013 #45

Your stats are right, very few women who are raped make false claims I posted a graphic on stevenleser Apr 2013 #328

+1.. Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #350

Next up: young black males are potential criminals. L0oniX Apr 2013 #46

well if they fit a certain percent, us white folks should be scared of them The Straight Story Apr 2013 #59

Say what? Number23 Apr 2013 #279

"Do they remind you and others of this?" you might talk to the MEN about this since they are almost seabeyond Apr 2013 #92

and for you it keeps come back to men The Straight Story Apr 2013 #113

Well said. HappyMe Apr 2013 #124

Wow ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #133

lol. i never read his posts.... i pretty much get thru the first sentence. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #136

I'm having a WTF moment ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #141

Facts are pesky things, aren't they? EOTE Apr 2013 #189

Hmmm maybe you should look at what you are saying The Straight Story Apr 2013 #166

No, not at all ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #211

Ok, you know what - let's just boil it down to something really simple The Straight Story Apr 2013 #237

I don't know honestly. ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #251

"Derailing"!! I got bingo!!! opiate69 Apr 2013 #323

You need to take a bow! Awesome. Sissyk Apr 2013 #241

Awesome. pacalo Apr 2013 #351

who brought it up? arley. a man. truth dude. it was not a feminist. seabeyond Apr 2013 #134

What does that even mean? The Straight Story Apr 2013 #143

The thread is about pediatric physicians and automatic assumptions of abuse. ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #145

This thread is not about that The Straight Story Apr 2013 #177

I do? ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #214

My three year old can see through this LOL... snooper2 Apr 2013 #222

Your three year can read? ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #229

we are working on it...abcmouse.com snooper2 Apr 2013 #239

TMI ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #257

I think that should be in the signature line for each male DUer. pacalo Apr 2013 #355

arley started a thread yesterday attacking feminist about always saying, all men are potential rapis seabeyond Apr 2013 #148

You say "it is men, reminding men, all the time. " The Straight Story Apr 2013 #200

you want to stop hearing all men are potential rapist, tell men to quit saying, all men are potentia seabeyond Apr 2013 #223

And, yet, here you are, chervilant Apr 2013 #256

Excellent. pacalo Apr 2013 #352

Assuming this is in response to the "all men are potential rapists", here is my question. DanTex Apr 2013 #34

IMO it seems to correlate to how common/widespread the problem is. redqueen Apr 2013 #47

Vigilance, yes. DanTex Apr 2013 #102

I guess if statistics show that workers are overwhelmingly those that steal, then that CEO is right. KitSileya Apr 2013 #114

I'm objecting to the word choice, not the vigilance. DanTex Apr 2013 #121

dantex. we do nto need to make the point for the most part. men bring this sentence up seabeyond Apr 2013 #138

Fair enough. I don't know the history of who said it first and who claimed what. DanTex Apr 2013 #157

i do not think any of us do. in the future, see who brings it up. betcha 100 to 1 it will be a man seabeyond Apr 2013 #161

But where has anyone said "all men are rapists"? KitSileya Apr 2013 #152

To my knowledge, nowhere. DanTex Apr 2013 #175

I'm not a big fan of "softening" the way I state what I believe is truth KitSileya Apr 2013 #198

It's not about softening so much as not choosing deliberately inflammatory language. DanTex Apr 2013 #231

Sometimes the frustration gets so high that I get my back up and I'm ornery just because. KitSileya Apr 2013 #246

I'll take my safety over ego every day mercuryblues Apr 2013 #261

No, you wouldn't. Not if you were on the receiving end of inflammatory language like this. stevenleser Apr 2013 #359

I'm a woman who thinks your comments here are all excellent. pacalo Apr 2013 #353

Beautifully said. Squinch Apr 2013 #291

How about "all ___cops___ are potential ___thugs___" ...and L0oniX Apr 2013 #50

Neither of those statements would be considered geek tragedy Apr 2013 #54

I could swear those very words HAVE been used ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #154

oh, cop hatred is not a violation of community norms here. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #225

Yep whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #68

What do you think the theory means? Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #94

First whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #99

Thanks for this! I think a lot of the problem is that it is a glib slogan Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #108

Thanks for whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #126

It was the best thing you could do for her... Jamastiene Apr 2013 #306

paranoia quinnox Apr 2013 #37

are you saying you disagree with Op and it is extreme? then there is a lotta lotta extreme in this seabeyond Apr 2013 #43

I'm not a fan of Nancy Grace quinnox Apr 2013 #67

I'd imagine that confusing mere concern with the melodrama of paranoia... LanternWaste Apr 2013 #76

Do you get weighed every time you see your MD? siligut Apr 2013 #80

Only if there are INDICATORS for abuse kdmorris Apr 2013 #49

I agree. HappyMe Apr 2013 #62

Research shows they were missing abuse that way! bettyellen Apr 2013 #204

bingo mercuryblues Apr 2013 #360

YAwn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #55

Posts like these remind me of Clark Griswold. RiffRandell Apr 2013 #60

"gee, dad, you must have jumped that car fifty yards!" "Nothin' to be proud of, Russ" Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #65

"Real tomato ketchup, Eddie?" RiffRandell Apr 2013 #72

"Vicky, can I help you with that kool-aid...please?" pacalo Apr 2013 #356

I heard the other day that they HappyMe Apr 2013 #71

This post was altered on! The jury voted 5/1 to let it stand! ohiosmith Apr 2013 #103

Ew. ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #162

If it walks like a duck... nt EOTE Apr 2013 #193

"I'm glad the staff were as thorough as they were in ruling me, or anyone else out as a cause." LanternWaste Apr 2013 #66

Indeed... haikugal Apr 2013 #81

Sans Some Kind of Reason RobinA Apr 2013 #95

hey did what they were supposed to do-- rule me out. LanternWaste Apr 2013 #119

Well, about what 'potential' means. In the story about the doctors and your injured mother Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #168

Why? 4Q2u2 Apr 2013 #98

The ER staff was advocating for their patient. LanternWaste wasn't the patient. The ER Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #112

But it was his Presumption of Innocence 4Q2u2 Apr 2013 #128

Could you squeeze any more Fox News talking points into this? I bet you could. Squinch Apr 2013 #294

Presumption of Innocence 4Q2u2 Apr 2013 #361

Every time I go see my physician Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #79

It's a numbers game, isn't it? KitSileya Apr 2013 #82

very very balanced post and missing the land mines. yes. exactly. thank you. helps to see it seabeyond Apr 2013 #90

Used to be that priests were beyond such questions. Festivito Apr 2013 #111

Abuse screens are standard now, it is not extreme pediatricmedic Apr 2013 #118

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I'm on pins and needles waiting to see what she comes up with to polly7 Apr 2013 #135

'all men benefit from rape' Rex Apr 2013 #144

you would have to read the article. not gona get non biased from these two. UL is following seabeyond Apr 2013 #149

LMAO!!!! Always, always someone else's fault. polly7 Apr 2013 #153

always fabricating shit. fault? wtf? and bummer. i deleted the OP and the link to the report seabeyond Apr 2013 #155

Sorry, I'm not understanding you at all. nt. polly7 Apr 2013 #156

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Ahhh! Thank you! My brain was hurting trying to understand all that. nt. polly7 Apr 2013 #194

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You're hurting my ribcage! pacalo Apr 2013 #357

"Not all men rape--but all men benefit from the fact that some men do." Rex Apr 2013 #159

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I am reading that thread atm. Rex Apr 2013 #206

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'I think rape is committed by rapists, who are criminals and individuals and who belong in prison.' Rex Apr 2013 #215

My favorite cheerleader. ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #160

Who are you talking to? I'm not your cheerleader ..... big one. ? polly7 Apr 2013 #164

You most certainly aren't. ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #172

That's awesome .... a positive self-image is never a bad thing. nt. polly7 Apr 2013 #174

No it isn't ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #183

Wicked!!! Do you write these yourself?!? nt. polly7 Apr 2013 #191

Wicked!!! Do you read these by yourself?!? nt. ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #216

No way! polly7 Apr 2013 #236

Seriously. nt. polly7 Apr 2013 #151

Are you now dear? ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #158

Quite, actually. polly7 Apr 2013 #163

What are you talking about? ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #179

Clearly. nt. polly7 Apr 2013 #181

Very. n/t. ismnotwasm Apr 2013 #184

. theKed Apr 2013 #265

Don't worry, we have mental illness screens as well... pediatricmedic Apr 2013 #334

So weird that this would be controversial!! bettyellen Apr 2013 #220

I can *mostly understand it. I'm repulsed by it, however. My family didn't require that scrutiny bigtree Apr 2013 #123

Golly... 99Forever Apr 2013 #125

Initial contact Rex Apr 2013 #139

Respectfully, that's a pediatrician's job, really. MineralMan Apr 2013 #146

But there is a correlation in that there is no easy way to tell bettyellen Apr 2013 #233

No, there's no easy way to tell, you're right. MineralMan Apr 2013 #252

Good points. I can say from experience that many bettyellen Apr 2013 #262

I understand. MineralMan Apr 2013 #289

You know what? Raine1967 Apr 2013 #165

ya know. if you feel that way i would think you would have addressed the man that put this garbage seabeyond Apr 2013 #167

Fair enough. I have a question: Raine1967 Apr 2013 #218

ream my ass is a rape reference? well then, see how this works. thanks for the info. i will not seabeyond Apr 2013 #227

This is now becoming laughable. Raine1967 Apr 2013 #247

nope. i didnt. i learn all the time. didnt know wuss was a combination of two words either. seabeyond Apr 2013 #249

seabeyond, Sissyk Apr 2013 #273

i will try this once. seabeyond Apr 2013 #276

Thank you for that reply. It is appreciated. Sissyk Apr 2013 #284

"Not all men rape--but all men benefit from the fact that some men do" polly7 Apr 2013 #330

You are assuming. Raine1967 Apr 2013 #285

Here is a suggestion: edit, or self delete. Raine1967 Apr 2013 #318

Unless you consented to have your...*ahem*... "ass reamed" tkmorris Apr 2013 #264

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I hate expectations... Raine1967 Apr 2013 #280

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I'd like to say I agree with you... Raine1967 Apr 2013 #309

I asked skinner in ATA if he meant for GD to become the new META Rex Apr 2013 #169

That has been my understanding as well. Raine1967 Apr 2013 #205

Maybe we can mix Fight Club with the Olive Garden? Rex Apr 2013 #210

I hate that Alfredo dude. Raine1967 Apr 2013 #316

but, you cheer arneys thread accusing feminists saying this. when he was the only one saying it. seabeyond Apr 2013 #219

CHEER? Raine1967 Apr 2013 #254

CRICKETS. Raine1967 Apr 2013 #321

Thats the problem. temporary311 Apr 2013 #270

If you're so goddamn sick and fucking tired of it, Sheldon Cooper Apr 2013 #173

That's pretty funny. Raine1967 Apr 2013 #192

Then you take what's out there, skippy. Sheldon Cooper Apr 2013 #196

Is that what you got? Raine1967 Apr 2013 #324

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i didnt see you saying the same shit in arneys thread. hypocrite? or bullshitter? nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #228

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Found him!!!!! opiate69 Apr 2013 #331

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Dude.. did he swallow Homer Simpson alive??? opiate69 Apr 2013 #340

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Interesting story LittleBlue Apr 2013 #171

Same here, but this was the early 70s. Rex Apr 2013 #176

I grew up in the 90s-00s LittleBlue Apr 2013 #188

So if a pediatrician has certain "canned" questions Tireman Apr 2013 #185

The questions are to detect abuse that has occurred ... bettyellen Apr 2013 #209

I agree with you Seabeyond undergroundpanther Apr 2013 #253

Once my son fell off the climbing gym at school and broke his wrist. He is on the autism spectrum. kimbutgar Apr 2013 #255

I, too, have had the experience of working with a child where I MISSED abuse. Squinch Apr 2013 #302

Seems that working with children presents a double edged sword when it comes to detecting abuse. alp227 Apr 2013 #348

I take your point, but in my area Squinch Apr 2013 #366

"Guilty until proven innocent" combined with "think of the children". I wonder what's next. idwiyo Apr 2013 #299

Pediatrician = their JOB. Average person = sad. nt Bonobo Apr 2013 #319

young vulnerable person= basic awareness they need bettyellen Apr 2013 #327

You can make safe choices without carrying the mental image that everyone Bonobo Apr 2013 #329

I don't think most people carry the image- in fact most carry the false, reverse image.... bettyellen Apr 2013 #332

Well, in a sense I guess I am. Bonobo Apr 2013 #333

i think you're confusing having knowledge with obsessing about it.... bettyellen Apr 2013 #336

Thank you. Bonobo Apr 2013 #337

Stupid OP. Apophis Apr 2013 #347