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Showing Original Post only (View all)Tell me more about how this White House doesn't know how to negotiate, we're all fucked, etc... [View all]
PLAN B DIES IN HOUSESpeaker Boehner Cites Lack Of GOP Support
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/boehner-calls-off-plan-b-vote?ref=fpa
Boehners Plan B collapses as GOP calls off vote
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cliff-standoff-boehner-works-to-wrangle-votes-for-plan-b-obama-threatens-veto/2012/12/20/d37cd8c6-4aa5-11e2-9a42-d1ce6d0ed278_story.html
...negotiating stance: gone.
So, yeah...you were saying something about how we're all fucked?
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Tell me more about how this White House doesn't know how to negotiate, we're all fucked, etc... [View all]
WilliamPitt
Dec 2012
OP
Haha. Boner couldn't get it up! I dare Leno or Letterman to say it. OK, maybe
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#107
Um, right. He couldn't POSSIBLY guess that the Tea Party would stand up to Boehner...
brooklynite
Dec 2012
#14
I'm sure Obama has ears in the chambers to report on what is happening.
LiberalFighter
Dec 2012
#287
A DU Obama critic speaks! Just like I predicted in my post #41. Sad, really. nt.
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#58
That's crap. He KNOWS who he's dealing with. Better than anyone in the blogosphere. -nt
CakeGrrl
Dec 2012
#122
"sick of this chess-playing nine-moves-ahead nonsense.If Obama really wanted to sink the Republican"
stklurker
Dec 2012
#221
The sooner you admit you've been wrong about Obama all along, the sooner the healing can begin.
MjolnirTime
Dec 2012
#252
Will never happen. The delusional wing of the left. Similar to Tea Baggers, just different jargon.
emulatorloo
Dec 2012
#280
Yeah, because who could have ever guessed that a gang of rabid shitweasels ...
11 Bravo
Dec 2012
#306
America will be fucked if any part of social security is on the table for Boner
indepat
Dec 2012
#10
I laugh at 'em. They are as comical as the teabaggers who call the president....
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2012
#175
There was no need to put SS on the table and I don't trust him to not do it again.
forestpath
Dec 2012
#19
I'd say they make him look reasoned and thoughtful rather than simply ideological.
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#87
Mmm hmm. Need to show in a hurry you're making concessions that piss off the left?
Barack_America
Dec 2012
#211
Jay Carney said that PBO put it in his proposal. At the Republican's request.
cui bono
Dec 2012
#291
I think tht is more the fault with a limp Boehner in the Speaker's chair than Obama.
Agnosticsherbet
Dec 2012
#27
Agree with you and the real Democrats were livid the SS system was put into play.
byeya
Dec 2012
#216
Yes, counting to 218 passes for good negotiation. It's something most on DU seem incapable of.
Recursion
Dec 2012
#42
If he didn't put a gradual defunding of the program that has kept older Americans alive
amandabeech
Dec 2012
#188
Nor will it dissuade him from his efforts to cut SS which has nothing to do with the deficit.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#103
Ah... 3 Dimensional Chess... What A Game... Remember How We Fooled 'Em Into The Public Option ???
WillyT
Dec 2012
#47
I hate to say it, but I saw this coming. I did not comment on the doom threads, as bad as it looked.
Gregorian
Dec 2012
#69
And we're supposed to raise a massive public outcry against bad ideas. If we don't speak up,
Overseas
Dec 2012
#112
you act like you haven't been posting the same crap around here for years.
MjolnirTime
Dec 2012
#304
You guys always get pissed when someone actually recalls what you have been doing. Why is that?
MjolnirTime
Dec 2012
#308
Regarding the chained CPI....As a Democrat, you *never* offer to cut Social Security
TheProgressive
Dec 2012
#48
They knew the GOP couldn't accept the chained-CPI option because the GOP is never going....
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#55
I don't recall that the President ever personally put chained CPI on the table....
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#91
No offense, but it is naive to think Obama did not put it on the table...
TheProgressive
Dec 2012
#97
How about thinking Presidential-level politics is a lot more complex than you evidently believe? nt
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#101
I won;t get into a pissing contest with you - you put something on the table then,
TheProgressive
Dec 2012
#105
People say a lot of things in public but very little of it actually becomes reality....
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#124
that is like saying that whomever plays the Chiefs on a given Sunday knows how to play football
dsc
Dec 2012
#59
They couldn't agree to their own speaker's $1 million tax hike; of course $400,000 was impossible
alcibiades_mystery
Dec 2012
#88
Yeah, Will. I am a good bluffer. When I can remember how, I love to play poker.
juajen
Dec 2012
#152
The President plays chess while we all whine moan and complain about him caving
loyalkydem
Dec 2012
#60
sure, he's just been yanking the chains of seniors, people that care about them
stupidicus
Dec 2012
#61
The GOP is not about to publicly agree to eliminating the massive tax cuts to their....
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#99
You had better hope they don't end up taking anything similar to Obama's original offer
MessiahRp
Dec 2012
#109
We "won" what exactly? We shrewdly got what saying sit and spin would have from the last shit deal
TheKentuckian
Dec 2012
#119
Did the American people get music lessons? Is that what your response means?
TheKentuckian
Dec 2012
#250
BRAVO. If there are more like you in Kentucky, I'm moving there! AMAZING response. Wish I said that.
BigBearJohn
Dec 2012
#295
This is SUCH a great post. I wish I could pin it to DU forever. PLEASE make an OP of it. nt
Bonobo
Dec 2012
#154
New question then maybe you'll answer the original one and others in that list.
cui bono
Dec 2012
#319
Who said Obama ran against Bush? That has nothing at all to do with what I'm saying.
cui bono
Dec 2012
#321
At some point, is Obama going to give up his plan to reduce SS by using a chained-CPI?
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#153
Sounds more like the Republican Party knows how to stick to its guns while we throw the
Fearless
Dec 2012
#162
So there's a deal now? Social Security is no longer on any table and never will be?
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2012
#199
There is no deal. The objective of these negotiations was not 'no deal and Boehner looks bad'
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2012
#205
The failure of Boehner's Plan B is exactly why Obama should have stood his ground.
olegramps
Dec 2012
#227
Sounds like a civics lesson might be in order? Obama has to "negotiate" with the.....
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2012
#322
There's always the Jill Stein Party, The Roseanne Party, The Rocky Anderson Party.
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2012
#326
Kindly tell me how he's going to get back all the concessions he has already offered
BlueStreak
Dec 2012
#242
But they know he is willing to give up chained CPI and at least $400K as the income limit
BlueStreak
Dec 2012
#314
If I spoke for the GOP, I would just say I couldn't accept a deal that would affect Social Security.
djean111
Dec 2012
#251
Tell the two million unemployed that lose benefits at the end of the year about the negotiatons.
former9thward
Dec 2012
#259
They tell us they are going to give us pain if we don't give them what they want
nolabels
Dec 2012
#262
After all the "Obama puts SS on the table" and "Obama is caving" threads,
CheapShotArtist
Dec 2012
#272
Negotiations are entering phase 2, but they aren't over until the deadline is passed.
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#277
Did we suddenly get a deal that averts the fiscal cliff, doesn't touch Soc Sec, and
Bake
Dec 2012
#278
Because he's negotiating with himself! We were saved from Social Security cuts by..... Boner????
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#282
+1. "Obama HAS violated the Cardinal Rule: Never Gamble with the Rent Money."
grahamhgreen
Dec 2012
#307
What Planet Do You Live On? Cause On This Planet, Not Only Have Changes to SS Been Discussed
Skraxx
Dec 2012
#318
if Obama doesn't pull a first debate on us - he could do tremendous good for this country
samsingh
Dec 2012
#301