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calimary

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22. Another idea to throw in, too: Full disclosure, linkage, and accountability.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:31 PM
Dec 2012

My husband came up with this one. In gun and bullet manufacture, serial-number everything. At the manufacturers' level. EVERYTHING. EVERY part of every gun and rifle of every sort, make, and model. And all accessories and every component and part and particle therein. Let that allow for traceability - back to where that gun or rifle or bullet or component or accessory was sold. Doesn't matter how long the chain of custody was, or whether it was stolen. Trace it back to the gun shop or broker or gun show booth. Do we not also hold bar owners and bartenders and party hosts responsible if somebody drinks too much on their premises or at their gathering and then goes out, drives drunk, and injures or kills somebody? Don't we have that law in place? If it's localized, then to hell with "states' rights." It needs to go NATIONAL. ALL 50 STATES. NO WIGGLE ROOM. Same rules for EVERYBODY across-the-board. NO EXCEPTIONS. On an issue like this, we can't allow for a legislative crazy quilt. Those guns, devices of death, do cross state lines, after all.

The objector or "devil's advocate" will say - Oh, but you'd have to find and replace ALL THE GUNS EVERYWHERE and that just won't happen, totally impractical, can't be done, so why even start down that road and blah-blah-blah. Well, being ruthlessly realistic about it, that's correct. You won't get everybody to get in line and hand in their guns out of the goodness of their hearts, just because it's the right and moral and noble and selfless thing to do. A few might, because their consciences and/or their small children started bothering them about it. But the majority won't so why even go there. In other words, do nothing and just give up, shut up, and go away. And pay no attention to that gunman behind the curtain. We're not set up to be able to achieve the whole pie.

But how 'bout a piece of it? Could be small, but it could also be big. Big enough to make a dent and a difference maybe? Or perhaps you'd rather see nothing done at all? Perhaps an empty pan with scattered crumbs in the bottom is good enough?

So maybe you start with a gun swap, or gun trade-in for some other such thing of value or a no-questions-asked dispensation. Then you're apt to get a LOT of guns manufactured before this new serial-number law was implemented. No, of course you won't get them all, but you'll get a LOT of 'em. You play the odds here and you gain more than you lose. There'd be that many fewer guns out there in circulation that couldn't be seriously tracked.

A deterrent, perhaps. And I think that's a good thing. The sales and brokerage and acquisition of guns 'n' ammo is taken far too lightly. THESE ARE NOT TOYS, OR COOL THINGS TO HAVE AROUND THE HOUSE OR SHOW OFF TO YOUR FRIENDS. THEY ARE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. INSTRUMENTS OF DEATH. DEVICES DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY TO CAUSE MURDER AND MAYHEM. You shouldn't be able to just walk up to your local Walmart counter or gun show and casually point at the merchandise you want. It should be a far more serious business and treated as such, with all kinds of heavy penalties hanging over heads on all sides of the transactions, all the time.

Kicking! calimary Dec 2012 #1
Kicking again. calimary Dec 2012 #2
Another thread here has some great ideas in it! calimary Dec 2012 #3
Kick now, will kick again later Savannahmann Dec 2012 #4
We have to go BIG with this issue. yellerpup Dec 2012 #5
I also wonder about some sort of imbedded electronic tracker. calimary Dec 2012 #11
That seems reasonable to me. yellerpup Dec 2012 #12
I recall several years ago... Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #20
I don't know if stuff like this is real or you saw it in a movie, but it's still a most interesting calimary Dec 2012 #21
K & R. Also... Chorophyll Dec 2012 #6
You said, "unfettered, unrestricted, free-and-easy access to your precious guns " Bake Dec 2012 #7
No, Bake, actually I don't know that. From every conversation I've had with calimary Dec 2012 #10
Oh, yes, I know there are people out there who argue for NO restrictions. Bake Dec 2012 #13
Oh yeah! calimary Dec 2012 #15
To echo Daniel Day-Lewis in Lincoln: NOW! NOW! NOW! NOW! NOW! ellisonz Dec 2012 #8
Here's a great idea from DUer Moostache: calimary Dec 2012 #9
K&R Canuckistanian Dec 2012 #14
Adding DUer Hugabear's ideas here, too. They're GOOD. calimary Dec 2012 #16
Another set of suggestions - from DUer Justin_Beach: calimary Dec 2012 #17
We must stop acting on symptoms and deal with the root cause ~ duwizrd Dec 2012 #18
Welcome to DU, duwizrd! calimary Dec 2012 #19
Another idea to throw in, too: Full disclosure, linkage, and accountability. calimary Dec 2012 #22
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