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no_hypocrisy

(46,230 posts) Fri Apr 26, 2024, 06:21 AM Apr 26

Regarding the multitude of protests about Israel [View all]

I find the asymmetry to be objectionable.

The Palestinian people (for lack of a more defined label) are being decimated by Israel, HAMAS, and to a lesser extent, Hezbollah. They have been victimized directly and indirectly by all three parties.

I'd like to see/hear more protests that address all three entities if a sincere criticism is being levied.

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Regarding the multitude of protests about Israel [View all] no_hypocrisy Apr 26 OP

hamas is a terrorist organization... Think. Again. Apr 26 #1

Yes and No. no_hypocrisy Apr 26 #2

No, the brutality of hamas... Think. Again. Apr 26 #3

Yes, but it's also a valid component of accountability. no_hypocrisy Apr 26 #4

Yes, I agree, and I strongly.... Think. Again. Apr 26 #6

Actually, it is one and the same. Exactly the same. Beastly Boy Apr 26 #47

I disagree... Think. Again. Apr 26 #54

I hope you are not disagreeing that Hamas did jack shit for the safety of the civilians in Gaza. Beastly Boy Apr 26 #56

I stopped reading when you... Think. Again. Apr 26 #58

Where did I show that this is my only concern? Did you not get to reading my other concerns? Beastly Boy Apr 26 #60

It seems to me you're more concerned about justifying ... Think. Again. Apr 26 #61

I now get an idea why you object to international law being mentioned. Beastly Boy Apr 26 #63

But I didn't object to International law being mentioned... Think. Again. Apr 26 #66

"I stopped reading when you ...showed that your only concern is for who is liable under law." is hardly Beastly Boy Apr 26 #67

I'd like to end this discussion somehow... Think. Again. Apr 26 #68

That's fine. To which I can only reply Beastly Boy Apr 26 #69

How are the protests being effective in real time? brooklynite Apr 26 #19

As proven by this post... Think. Again. Apr 26 #23

So, nobody was discussing the issue before the campus protests started? brooklynite Apr 26 #32

You could say that about any protest. ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #38

I'm not aware that we're "protesting". brooklynite Apr 26 #44

I don't know if your protesting or not... Think. Again. Apr 26 #55

I can't speak for all protestors, but at least at Columbia they are calling for a ceasefire and divestment in war profi ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #5

The protesters are not making this clear at all. Beastly Boy Apr 26 #7

Huh? ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #10

Exactly my point. Beastly Boy Apr 26 #14

And my point is that you are wrong to think they want hamas to keep shooting while Israel stops. ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #18

This is not what I think at all. Beastly Boy Apr 26 #24

I can't comment on what you see or don't see. ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #28

Do you see anything different from what I see? Beastly Boy Apr 26 #37

Were you aware that the Vietnam War protests didn't always explicitly call for hanoi to stop fighting? ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #40

Another deflection, but I will bite. Beastly Boy Apr 26 #45

Yes, and HAMAS broke that cease fire Mossfern Apr 26 #51

Hamas has a habit of breaking cease fires Mossfern Apr 26 #8

So a protestor cannot call for a ceasefire because one side might break it? ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #11

A protester has the right to protest anything Mossfern Apr 26 #13

I don't think they want a one sided ceasefire. ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #15

Well then Mossfern Apr 26 #16

Guess you sure know the future. ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #17

What are they doing besides protesting? Mossfern Apr 26 #22

They want columbia to divest and they want a ceasefire ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #25

If Columbia divests do you really think that will sway Israeli policy? Mossfern Apr 26 #50

A cease fire means an end to the siege of Gaza. Big Blue Marble Apr 26 #64

If they are calling for a cease fire, wouldn't it be more to the point to call out those who break cease fires? Beastly Boy Apr 26 #48

War profits? brooklynite Apr 26 #20

I can't speak for any of the protestors on that one. ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #29

To you personally, did Hamas not invade Israel? Beastly Boy Apr 26 #49

How are the Palestinian people being decimated by Hezbollah? elias7 Apr 26 #9

While hezbollah doesn't attack Palestinians... ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #12

TBH, I wish these students gave half as much a shit about... Happy Hoosier Apr 26 #21

I believe there have been... Think. Again. Apr 26 #26

Nothing like this, and you know it. Happy Hoosier Apr 26 #34

My concern for the lives and well-being... Think. Again. Apr 26 #41

Those kind of protests were actually grassroots and not professionally organized and funded. betsuni Apr 26 #27

Its funny, i went to a pro lgbt event and no one even mentioned gun violence! ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #31

You know what I mean... Happy Hoosier Apr 26 #35

Oh if you know why, why hide it from us? ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #36

I haven't hid it. Happy Hoosier Apr 26 #39

They couldn't care less about those issues BannonsLiver Apr 26 #46

I would like to understand JustAnotherGen Apr 26 #30

Lately columbia has been checking ids at their gates ExciteBike66 Apr 26 #33

United States investment in the conflict is asymmetrical Doc Sportello Apr 26 #42

Israel doesn't get billions to defend against Hamas. Beastly Boy Apr 26 #52

Boy that is some sleight of hand Doc Sportello Apr 26 #57

Which do you consider to be a sleight of hand? Beastly Boy Apr 26 #59

My post was about why there is an asymmetry on this subject Doc Sportello Apr 26 #62

My post was about the validity of your explanation Beastly Boy Apr 26 #65

Exactly. Goddessartist Apr 26 #53

There is a lot of hypocrisy, phoniness and other shit JI7 Apr 26 #43