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👏👏👏Shout it to the skies. Traildogbob Apr 25 #1
This x 1M FalloutShelter Apr 25 #2
i believe some said: campaign in Wisconsin doesn't matter Tetrachloride Apr 25 #3
I remember. Many want to forget that. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 25 #9
Only apologists I see in this thread are right in this mini-thread. W_HAMILTON Apr 25 #16
Thank you. betsuni Apr 26 #45
Lets no forget that third party voters gave Trump the nomination...inexusable and Demsrule86 Apr 26 #46
True But... HandmaidsTaleUntold Apr 26 #57
NO, no buts. The courts were at stake and they knew it...no excuses. UNFORGIVEABlE... no excuse will ever suffice IMHO. Demsrule86 Apr 26 #58
Mistakes are made in every campaign mcar Apr 26 #61
She Did Not Lose Because Of 3rd Party Candidates HandmaidsTaleUntold Apr 27 #62
Jill Stein got more votes in MI, WI and PA than Trump's margin of victory mcar Apr 27 #65
I Would Never Vote For Stein HandmaidsTaleUntold Apr 28 #83
This! mcar Apr 26 #60
In 2016, Hillary didn't make even 1 general election campaign appearance in Wisconsin. Not one. elocs Apr 25 #32
I see...so it is not the voters who voted for Stein or even Trump in some case...saw it on JPR, Demsrule86 Apr 26 #47
The Democratic nominee was too confident ("hubris" was the popular 2016 insult word) and that "gave them permission" betsuni Apr 27 #63
Yet neither Biden nor Trump are ignoring Wisconsin now nor taking it for granted. elocs Apr 27 #68
Why would a few more rallies in white rural Wisconsin have made any difference? betsuni Apr 26 #38
They just want to blame Hillary...because they want to excuse the behavior of those who Demsrule86 Apr 26 #48
They weren't for anything in 2016, only against an imaginary cartoon villain Hillary. betsuni Apr 26 #51
I don't think Trump will win in 24. But the idea that 2016 idiots are still at it...is unbelievable. Demsrule86 Apr 26 #52
Biden will win (unless worst case scenario). Yet there are still both sides idiots in 2024. Unbelievable. betsuni Apr 26 #55
So True, I hold onto the fact that they have lost every election...it was a year ago when Sarah Palin lost in Alaska. Demsrule86 Apr 26 #59
hmm. I don't know a single voter who said anything like that in any election. N ot Ever. msfiddlestix Apr 25 #4
I heard that by some when it was pointed out that the Supreme Court was at stake in 2016 after some anti-Hillary JohnSJ Apr 25 #5
For the record, that's a higher percentage than Clinton primary voters voting for Obama. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 25 #8
A lot of Bernie supporters were not Democrats, never were. It's wrong to think the Dem party owns the Earth-shine Apr 27 #66
They proved that in 2000 and 2016, and contributed to THIS supreme court JohnSJ Apr 27 #69
Bernie hid in his cushy, ivory Washington tower in 2000 and let W steal that election! GoreWon2000 Apr 27 #70
This is the first time I've heard Bernie being blamed for Bush v Gore. Earth-shine Apr 27 #72
Yes, those awful Bernie supporters in 2000. Earth-shine Apr 27 #71
Ask Cornell West, David Sirota, Nina Turner, Briahna Joy Gray, Susan Sarandon, JohnSJ Apr 27 #75
You are pissing in the wind now. Earth-shine Apr 27 #76
You are right. I am well past rational conversation, that ended in 2016 when a racist, sexit, bigot won the presidency JohnSJ Apr 27 #78
Despair is not an option. That's how Jill Stein gets votes. Earth-shine Apr 27 #80
I am with you now, but unless we win in November I am not so sure. JohnSJ Apr 27 #81
You will be with me either way come next year. Earth-shine Apr 27 #82
Bernie Sanders very own campaign staffers did MistakenLamb Apr 25 #11
Indeed they did DFW Apr 25 #15
And very vocal about it. Mentioning the SC or the enormous obvious difference between the parties betsuni Apr 26 #39
Oh dear me. They did and they do, every 4 years. Hekate Apr 25 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Apr 25 #35
I have been saying that for years gopiscrap Apr 25 #6
The Federalist Society Fascists have captured our Supreme Court. magicarpet Apr 25 #7
Yup, fuck the Federalist Society and the Heritage Foundation. Initech Apr 25 #10
"We need to maintain the majority in the Senate in order to..." ? You mean the one-vote majority? Hekate Apr 25 #21
OK, let's commit to INCREASING..... MyOwnPeace Apr 25 #29
We need a landslide, but only 1/3 of the Senate is up for re-election at a time, iirc Hekate Apr 25 #31
Well,... 51 votes in the senate will confirm,... magicarpet Apr 26 #36
51 votes isn't enough. We need a way better majority. Demsrule86 Apr 26 #53
One might argue they also have a foothold in the DOJ. Earth-shine Apr 27 #67
All of this is on their heads mcar Apr 25 #12
The stakes were very clear in 2016. JohnSJ Apr 25 #13
Crystal mcar Apr 25 #14
PAID speeches. It was a huge sin (only for Hillary) to be PAID as former First Lady, senator and SoS for speeches. betsuni Apr 26 #40
Yes. And Trump would bring on "the revolution." Yay! mcar Apr 26 #42
It's no wonder the revolution people are obsessed with blaming Hillary for not doing more rallies betsuni Apr 26 #49
Blame, blame, blame, for all the good it will do you. Earth-shine Apr 27 #73
"Dont threaten me with the Supreme Court!" emulatorloo Apr 25 #17
The anti-Hillary theme song. oasis Apr 25 #25
Also earlier. I remember having some pitched battles here over electing Obama... Hekate Apr 25 #18
I think they consider themselves too noble & righteous to lower themselves to vote for a perceived lesser of 2 evils. elocs Apr 25 #33
I'm with you. Even after Obama was elected they wouldn't give up the nastiness... Hekate Apr 25 #34
SCrOTUS is destroying it's own legitamacy pfitz59 Apr 25 #19
Yes, but they already did that with the Dobbs decision, and the current chaos that is causing JohnSJ Apr 25 #22
Ignore them? Sorry, it does not work that way. Hekate Apr 25 #23
All That Matters HandmaidsTaleUntold Apr 25 #24
I hate so called Christians who want to deny women medical care and I despise the Demsrule86 Apr 26 #50
This is nonsense - "There is no excuse for those who did not back Hillary and yes Obama fully...none." Earth-shine Apr 27 #74
Too bad. I watched these folks who were very engaged...and I feel they are to blame. I will neverfo Demsrule86 Apr 27 #77
And your anger will never help to earn their votes ... never ... thus condemning us to more losses. Earth-shine Apr 27 #79
Maybe time to consider moondust Apr 25 #26
I second the original poster's emotion. oswaldactedalone Apr 25 #27
Hillary Clinton called it in 2016 LetMyPeopleVote Apr 25 #28
And they still won't admit Democrats aren't the same or worse than Republicans and their whole betsuni Apr 26 #41
K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RKP5637 Apr 25 #30
I don't recall anyone or any reports of people doing this. Chakaconcarne Apr 26 #37
... mcar Apr 26 #43
I've never seen a panda in real life so therefore they don't exist. betsuni Apr 26 #44
I remember in 2020 several people on this forum were not that walkingman Apr 26 #54
to the Googleplex! WhiteTara Apr 26 #56
K and R. Tell it like it is. oasis Apr 27 #64
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