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Captain Stern

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212. Why stop there?

Wed Apr 17, 2024, 08:03 AM

Apr 17

Why not limit all vehicles to just 20 mph maximum? Just think of all the lives that would save.

That actually would save thousands of lives, but we just don't want to have to go that slow.

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New CA bill would limit the speed of all vehicles to 10 MPH over the speed limit [View all] Hope232 Apr 16 OP

How is this to be implemented? NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #1

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So the government can track your whereabouts. Not going to happen. NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #6

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Yeah, the abortion clinic. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #16

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Have you ever been some place where you shouldn't have gone? NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #34

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No more calls, please. We already have a winner. NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #40

Technically, Mr. Evil Apr 16 #184

It happens I DO have a problem with that. Happy Hoosier Apr 16 #52

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Because OUR government IS supposed to stay out of OUR business. FoxNewsSucks Apr 16 #85

Are you saying it's your business if you break the maximum speed limit by more than ten mph? Your business if you break Doodley Apr 16 #97

You missed the point. FoxNewsSucks Apr 16 #107

This is ForgedCrank Apr 16 #111

The consitution talks about vehicle speed limits? Doodley Apr 16 #137

That still ForgedCrank Apr 16 #147

I've read it, thank you. I see nowhere that it talks about speed-restructing vehicals. Doodley Apr 16 #156

Well, seeing ForgedCrank Apr 16 #158

Uncalled for! AKwannabe Apr 16 #114

Hard governors on vehicles are dangerous and regressive. Hugin Apr 16 #10

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It's technologically backwards. Hugin Apr 16 #19

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It's impossible to drive at the posted speed limit where speed bumps are present... Hugin Apr 16 #36

agree FHRRK Apr 16 #190

Punishing everyone who wants to drive way beyonf the speed limit and endanger others? Really? Doodley Apr 16 #101

Direct feedback speed limit signs are far more effective. Hugin Apr 16 #128

I lived in England. I was allowed to ride a motorcyle at age 16, that's a year earlier than you can drive a car. Doodley Apr 16 #153

Besides being a non sequitur... Hugin Apr 16 #160

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the governing will be done digitally , probably based on gps data. rampartc Apr 16 #56

And if people don't want government GPS in their vehicle? ripcord Apr 16 #80

Not to mention a privately owned insurance company that has nothing better... Hugin Apr 16 #127

Seems to me a 10-over governor will work about as well as the so-called self-driving cars... brush Apr 16 #185

Intrusive and expensive to implement... Hugin Apr 16 #188

The legislator is well-intentioned but one wonders if he's ever driven a car before... brush Apr 16 #189

Nothing I see that indicates the vehicle will be tracked. LiberalFighter Apr 16 #33

Intrinsically it would have to include tracking technology sarisataka Apr 16 #46

My GPS knows what the speed limit is where I drive. LiberalFighter Apr 16 #50

That is how I assume it would work sarisataka Apr 16 #53

Yes, that or with cameras. ecstatic Apr 19 #215

The problem is that we are told never to trust our GPS ripcord Apr 16 #84

The deivce would have to know where you are... Happy Hoosier Apr 16 #55

Such a device does not necessarily mean Disaffected Apr 16 #75

How else would it work? NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #78

A "GPS" knows your location and speed, Disaffected Apr 16 #95

No, it ForgedCrank Apr 16 #192

Of course the car would have to know Disaffected Apr 16 #193

Any vehicle ForgedCrank Apr 16 #195

Is any of that in the proposed legislation? Disaffected Apr 16 #197

Whatever you ForgedCrank Apr 16 #200

Ok, so you see that the bridge is starting to fall in your rearview mirror Polybius Apr 16 #183

Modern vehicles could be done with software but RubyRose Apr 16 #3

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If California pays for it. Ok. jimfields33 Apr 16 #60

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The buyer pays for it because the cost will be passed on as part of the total cost of the car zeusdogmom Apr 16 #67

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The cost WILL be passed to consumers AKwannabe Apr 16 #118

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Sure. NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #68

Reality the price would go up. jimfields33 Apr 16 #69

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Ok. It will be interesting to see where this goes. jimfields33 Apr 16 #89

The maximum speed present on a speedometer has nothing to do with the top speed of the car. MichMan Apr 16 #210

Thank you. Learn something new everyday here. jimfields33 Apr 17 #211

What colour is the sky in your world? niyad Apr 16 #72

I think it's pretty rainy in that poster's world. FoxNewsSucks Apr 16 #87

You are quite correct. niyad Apr 16 #92

The wedgies are out in force. Hugin Apr 16 #141

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As I have already explained... It's not safer. Hugin Apr 16 #152

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An ironic assertion Torchlight Apr 16 #168

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Interesting jimfields33 Apr 18 #213

Which means the buyer pays for it. Happy Hoosier Apr 16 #163

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Quite so, but new cars are already incredibly expensive... Happy Hoosier Apr 16 #172

I would think a gps speed sensor and attach that to a cruise control.. mitch96 Apr 16 #79

People will revolt against this Johnny2X2X Apr 16 #4

I don't understand why more here don't see this. Arthur_Frain Apr 16 #14

And they will have a great reason to say vanlassie Apr 16 #134

There are times when you need the speed to avoid accidents bucolic_frolic Apr 16 #7

Just one more "smart" device to fail Johonny Apr 16 #9

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The money cost is NEVER immaterial.... Happy Hoosier Apr 16 #63

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Moving the goalpoats? Happy Hoosier Apr 16 #110

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I won't call him a nut case, but I do think the proposal is utterly foolish. Happy Hoosier Apr 16 #166

Exactly, plus they also cause problems Johonny Apr 16 #91

Same here. I had a Chrysler 300M FoxNewsSucks Apr 16 #124

You have very peculiar views about what Democrats stand for. Qutzupalotl Apr 16 #98

Thank you. Well said. The Unmitigated Gall Apr 16 #112

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"If a child's life is saved by this device... saving lives no matter the cost" EX500rider Apr 16 #169

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Most states require private pools to be fenced in, I know Fla does EX500rider Apr 16 #179

I have always wondered why we insist on having cars sarisataka Apr 16 #12

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Interesting turn of a phrase sarisataka Apr 16 #22

What engine do you have in your vehicle, the Toyota Matrix? NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #42

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130 horsepower? That's rather excessive, isn't it? Who needs that much power? mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #62

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So, the same question then, why do you need that much power? mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #82

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So we can trust you to make the right choice. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #88

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What makes you unique? If we allow you to make that choice, shouldn't we allow others to make that choice too? NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #122

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Good for you. Must we all join your church as well? FoxNewsSucks Apr 16 #104

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I can't imagine the residents of California tolerating this. It's a super bad move for whoever champions it. patphil Apr 16 #17

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People will see this as just another way that government controls their lives. patphil Apr 16 #30

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I'm leary of this because it disabled the ability to react in an emergency. haele Apr 16 #59

This outrage reminds me of anti-masking? As you say, it's to save lives. Nobody should be speeding anyway. Doodley Apr 16 #102

See my post below... sometimes speeding can save lives. NT Happy Hoosier Apr 16 #120

Here's one example from my own life. Happy Hoosier Apr 16 #117

I am glad it worked out for your dad. Google: smoking saved my life. Google: Seatbelt victims. Google: Covid shot death Doodley Apr 16 #145

Yeah, thanks... Those are not even remotely comprable claims. Happy Hoosier Apr 16 #161

As I said, I am very pleased your dad made it. I don't see any human life as a statistic. Do you have anything you would Doodley Apr 16 #174

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It was! Happy Hoosier Apr 16 #162

Enjoy your stay. Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 16 #20

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Just for the record, what sort of vehicle do you own and operate? NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #23

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And where do you drive it? NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #27

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"Is it cold up there in the moral high ground?" niyad Apr 16 #66

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Thank you for the best laugh I have had this morning. And do, please, niyad Apr 16 #100

If DU awarded a prize for "least self-aware post of the day," I'm sure that one would win it. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #131

Exactly. niyad Apr 16 #133

How exactly would that work? PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 16 #24

Current generation vehicle automation software Voltaire2 Apr 16 #65

yup my car reads signs with a camera... cool stuff WarGamer Apr 16 #198

"It's for your own good!" dchill Apr 16 #28

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Democrats as castor oil is not a good sell. dchill Apr 16 #38

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great turn of phrase Celerity Apr 16 #123

Well, someone is not convinced. dchill Apr 16 #135

I smell pizza n/t gay texan Apr 16 #57

Now I am hungry. niyad Apr 16 #76

Attempting to complete a pass on a two lane road will be very dangerous. MichMan Apr 16 #31

That Was My First Reaction ProfessorGAC Apr 16 #175

Doubt Biden would want a governor on his Corvette. Silent Type Apr 16 #35

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I'm solid with Biden, but don't see him in a Prius, Chevy Volt, etc. Silent Type Apr 16 #144

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Yet another "bright idea" that would keep me from ever moving to CA. Jirel Apr 16 #39

Could make passing a challenge. Xoan Apr 16 #41

Nope and i'll be one of the first to find a workaound gay texan Apr 16 #44

If this were to pass DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 16 #93

Why stop here...why not limit the speed of all vehicles to the speed limit. CincyDem Apr 16 #48

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Apologies - when you posted this in General Discussion, I didn't realize you intended it to be a CA only discussion. CincyDem Apr 16 #64

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At 47 posts, I thought that might be the case. CincyDem Apr 16 #142

Speed traps will never be eliminated. They're too profitable, FoxNewsSucks Apr 16 #116

I see we're playing Who Wants to Lose Elections? Sympthsical Apr 16 #73

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Sounds really serious Torchlight Apr 16 #96

We'll see if he can convince other Democrats to commit electoral suicide. Happy Hoosier Apr 16 #121

No thanks.. I have needed to go beyond that to prevent serious accidents... Chakaconcarne Apr 16 #74

Please give an example. Thank you. Doodley Apr 16 #105

Plenty of examples in Posts Above. marked50 Apr 16 #149

Not a chance in Hell that this becomes law. MineralMan Apr 16 #103

There appears to be a law in Texas that requires everyone walkingman Apr 16 #106

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This is playing right into the hands of the RW attempts to universalise the false slur that all Dems are nanny staters Celerity Apr 16 #113

Not so false if we have enough morons to pass this The Mouth Apr 23 #216

God forbid I have enough time to change lanes for my exit before someone going 100 mph creams me passing on the right. NoSheep Apr 16 #115

If someone is having to pass you on the right you were in the wrong lane EX500rider Apr 16 #178

You could name the Bill... "Democrats never win another election again act of 2024" WarGamer Apr 16 #119

yep Celerity Apr 16 #125

yep Celerity Apr 16 #126

Yeah, this is bullshit SpankMe Apr 16 #138

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My SUV has a device that takes control Arne Apr 16 #157

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Or, raise the fine for speeding intrepidity Apr 16 #143

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And this how ebbie15644 Apr 16 #151

This outrage reminds me of the fight against smoking laws, gun laws, seatbelt laws, motorbike helmet laws. Doodley Apr 16 #164

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The JustAnotherGen Apr 16 #176

Thsts going too far, that is why people doc03 Apr 16 #177

Why have an F150 EV with 1000 hp that does 0-60 in 4 seconds when you doc03 Apr 16 #196

Known in cities as "Carjackers' Prey" bucolic_frolic Apr 16 #180

This is a terrible idea and not mainly because of civil liberties. It's terrible because it won't work. localroger Apr 16 #181

Okay, but other than that, what do you think of it? NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #201

Well other than that... NutmegYankee Apr 16 #205

Hahahaha. Terrific one-liner. I first heard it from my introductory chemistry instructor. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #206

Fuck that shit Polybius Apr 16 #182

So a 20 year old college student is fleeing a rapist.... FHRRK Apr 16 #186

Idiotic idea. Here's a better plan FoxNewsSucks Apr 16 #187

As much as I HATE speeders, this is utterly stupid. Ferrets are Cool Apr 16 #191

What the eff? Is this the Onion? SYFROYH Apr 16 #194

It was a kind of plant. NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #203

Well, this thread is certainly entertaining! A HERETIC I AM Apr 16 #199

Nearly everyone sized up the OP right away as a plant. It looked like one of James O'Keefe's less successful new hires. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 16 #202

LOL.... A HERETIC I AM Apr 16 #207

This is the worst bill I have ever seen proposed. NutmegYankee Apr 16 #204

Unless the CA is going to provide free internet access for all vehicles made after 2026, this is not going to end well krawhitham Apr 16 #208

Scott Wiener tired of being flipped off and honked at for driving 10 under the speed limit in the fast lane Hotler Apr 16 #209

Why stop there? Captain Stern Apr 17 #212

To be honest, I'm a little worried that legislators in California ecstatic Apr 19 #214