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gulliver

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38. The article kind of stinks, but the Pew poll data is useful

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Sun Apr 14, 2024, 12:36 PM

Apr 14

I have two quibbles with the article. First, it doesn't address the importance of the downtick in Black support of the Dems (seen by following the link to the actual report in the article). Small is enough to lose elections. It's a concern.

Unfortunately and secondly, the article repeats a very unjust, gratuitous, and all-too-common broad-brush attack on men. It's not even black men. The article says, "I think there’s a story to be written about how men could be drawn in by Trump’s misogyny."

Smh. Write the article! The sentence by itself is lazy, grossly unjust, and vote losing.

I do appreciate the link to the Pew study. Interesting to see Hispanic and White voters giving us an uptick. I hope that becomes a trend.

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Pew pokes a hole in "Orangetan-loving Black voters" narrative [View all] struggle4progress Apr 14 OP

'a figment of the media's imagination .' elleng Apr 14 #1

I think a more accuate decriptor, given the salacious obession with the idea... JHB Apr 14 #9

I've disputed such BS everytime I read that here... brush Apr 14 #2

"I'm African American and I would never think of voting for a republican" brooklynite Apr 14 #6

i'm a typical Black man who associates with other Black people. brush Apr 14 #7

You're not a typical Black man and I'm not a typical White man. brooklynite Apr 14 #34

Let's make a bet on what percentage of Blacks vote for Trump. Elessar Zappa Apr 14 #42

I don my think that's unreasonable.. brooklynite Apr 14 #43

I don't think the typical black man will want to have to deal with the typical black woman on this topic Walleye Apr 14 #52

You're going to white-splain black culture NanaCat Apr 14 #16

. Voltaire2 Apr 14 #19

Why yes of course FHRRK Apr 14 #35

So you're saying the only issue Black voters care about is racism? brooklynite Apr 14 #37

Really need a negative Rec for these types of comments. erronis Apr 14 #31

Sorry Brooklyn, but I don't think a white man is in any position to tell us what a JohnSJ Apr 14 #40

Sometimes you have to push the brakes John Shaft Apr 14 #45

Thank you Keepthesoulalive Apr 14 #28

Exactly. Too much whitesplaining going on. brush Apr 14 #30

NYT pitchbot: we talked to a 'black voter' who supports Trump Voltaire2 Apr 14 #3

If they find two, headline becomes BLACK VOTERS REJECT BIDEN dalton99a Apr 14 #18

A lot of false claims and narratives ... ananda Apr 14 #4

Nobody has claimed that there's a "seismic" shift among African American voters.... brooklynite Apr 14 #5

A shift to vote for a known white supremacist? Yeah, sure. brush Apr 14 #8

This is difficult for some people to accept... brooklynite Apr 14 #11

It's difficult for some to accept that polls are easily manipulated... brush Apr 14 #12

So its a good thing we can look at actual voting patterns. brooklynite Apr 14 #14

Still no complaints about the two thirds of white men... brush Apr 14 #20

Not relevant to the discussion brooklynite Apr 14 #21

Do you not get that you're coming off like Susan Smith from back in the day... brush Apr 14 #22

I'm not "blaming" anyone... brooklynite Apr 14 #23

There was a recent poll just last week that said there was no significant shift right of Black voters... brush Apr 14 #24

A campaign that waits to "see what happens on election day" invariably loses. brooklynite Apr 14 #25

Why ignore the Pew poll from last week that differs from the alleged shift you keep talking about? brush Apr 14 #26

exit polls have MOE and that change is likely within it dsc Apr 14 #27

Agree. Celerity Apr 14 #15

I'm a rural Black man. John Shaft Apr 14 #46

"I'm a rural Black man" brooklynite Apr 14 #47

Black people can't read about politics? John Shaft Apr 14 #48

I'm saying that MOST voters (Black or White) don't... brooklynite Apr 14 #49

He's on a roll and can't be stopped! Voltaire2 Apr 14 #54

brush - you look like you've been around for a while. Don't feed the trolls. erronis Apr 14 #32

I know. Brooklnite is not really a troll as he's a regular. brush Apr 14 #33

And is fond of an argument. erronis Apr 14 #36

Would a Focus Group be more reliable? brooklynite Apr 14 #39

It's not "trolling" to challenge either conventional wisdom or orthodoxy... brooklynite Apr 14 #41

The Pew poll shows a very slight shift to Republicans since 2020. All Mixed Up Apr 14 #53

Well done. Voltaire2 Apr 14 #10

False, the "shift" is not significant and hasn't gone up past recent GQP stats for black men or women uponit7771 Apr 14 #13

"seismic shift in party identification" is a stawman position to knock over easily. SYFROYH Apr 14 #17

An interesting trend among these numbers Doc Sportello Apr 14 #51

What about the Pew Poll that doesn't agree? brush Apr 14 #29

The article kind of stinks, but the Pew poll data is useful gulliver Apr 14 #38

Won't all of this change when Obama campaigns for Biden this summer? FakeNoose Apr 14 #44

That article is like 95% opinion piece Sympthsical Apr 14 #50