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Richard D

(8,864 posts)
21. What the F is a proportional response?
Wed Mar 13, 2024, 12:13 PM
Mar 13

One to one? Does Israel stop after exactly 123,00 Palestinians are killed? What about the rapes? Should Israel count the rapes of 10/7 and rape that many Palestinians? Does Israel, therefore, need a new branch of their military made of sadists who will mutilate and torture citizens? One-to-one, of course, so that it all stays "proportional." Oh, and of course, kidnapping the exact number of civilians Hamas did and keeping them locked up underground on starvation rations and abused and raped? Help me understand this, please.

Or perhaps it can be determined that Israelis are more valuable than Palestinians, and rather than being on to one, it can be bounced up a bit, perhaps to two or three to one. I'm curious how the Palestinians will choose the "volunteered" to participate with their lives. Random lottery? The exact ages must all be the same to be truly proportional, so children and infants must be part of this. There are so many other factors that must be met to be truly proportional - intelligence, family members who will be affected, future potential, and far more. But proportionality must be maintained.

Jews, at least the vast majority, will not participate in this. So actors from different countries must be found who can perform the needed rapes, torture, and murder. So that they do so with the same gusto and sadism that Hamas butchered the Israelis, a suitable people must be found who hate Muslims with all their hearts. Otherwise, the torture would be half-hearted and would not be truly proportional. Of course, families of the victims would be forced to watch.

Or, since all of this is certainly too complex, a perfectly proportional number of deaths could be agreed upon. Is four too few, five enough, or six too many? I'm sure some would find any number too small, as others would find any number too large. One cannot deny the value Israel and Jews have contributed to the world that is highly disproportional to any other culture. So, the future loss to humanity should also be calculated.

Perhaps an international panel could be convened to determine the exact ramifications of proportionality, and a panel could be convened to determine who would be on the panel, of course.

In all this, I have not mentioned yet Hamas. What should their role be in this proportionality? Personally, I think every single agent of Hamas should be executed for each Israeli they butchered. That would be proportional, though resurrection would be needed. No matter what, it could never be enough.

Of course, in a heated topic like this, I must confess to some proportional degree of

Good article, though I highly doubt the one third of the 30,000 dead Gazans were Hamas "fighters" ... marble falls Mar 13 #1
War is not meant to be "proportional," it's meant to defeat the enemy. Oopsie Daisy Mar 13 #3
So war crime is an acceptable strategy to "defeat the enemy" as long as the war criminals win ... marble falls Mar 13 #4
Hamas is the one guilty of war crimes. Oopsie Daisy Mar 13 #5
Can't help but notice both questions were dodged. . . FoxNewsSucks Mar 13 #13
No need to address false premises. That's a distraction. Oopsie Daisy Mar 13 #19
Make no mistake about it. Isreal and Hamas are both guilty of war crimes. flashman13 Mar 13 #22
That old canard doesn't wash with me. Oopsie Daisy Mar 13 #27
You do know when one side commits war crimes... ECL213 Mar 13 #17
I don;t believe it has been establish that "War crimes" were committed. Happy Hoosier Mar 13 #24
When even Friedman is this alarmed Basic LA Mar 13 #2
When world opinion is calcilated by the number of posts on social media fueled by the likes of Beastly Boy Mar 13 #6
Israel will not get the U.S. money and weapons it now takes for granted Sky Jewels Mar 13 #10
When those Gen Zers learn the actual meaning of Beastly Boy Mar 13 #29
They see the reality, Sky Jewels Mar 14 #38
When I was young and poorly informed, I was also certain I saw reality. Beastly Boy Mar 14 #40
I'm pushing 60. Sky Jewels Mar 14 #41
Sounds like we started reading Pope at about the same time. Beastly Boy Mar 14 #43
He might mean the world-wide demonstrations. Basic LA Mar 13 #18
I am sure there are nore than internet trolls involved. Beastly Boy Mar 13 #32
Maybe people simply know the difference between right and wrong? PufPuf23 Mar 13 #25
The thought occured to me. Beastly Boy Mar 13 #33
He had no problem with us invading Iraq and slaughtering Sky Jewels Mar 13 #9
You're right, he didn't. Basic LA Mar 13 #15
Imagine a serious infection that triggers a massive immune response... Girard442 Mar 13 #7
The longer Netanyahu and his allies are in charge, the closer it is to Israel's doom. LuvLoogie Mar 13 #8
What do you think could happen? Mosby Mar 13 #11
Stop the settlements in the west bank. Make restitution to the Palestinians there. LuvLoogie Mar 13 #12
The Palestinians can pay restitution to Israel for TheKentuckian Mar 13 #30
There is no Palestinian state/empire/reich LuvLoogie Mar 13 #36
And just what the fuck happens when it is "too late"? SoFlaBro Mar 13 #31
Israel would continue on its ethnic cleansing LuvLoogie Mar 13 #34
Our little fucking 17% contribution to their military budget won't matter a fucking tinker's damn SoFlaBro Mar 13 #37
It might not. LuvLoogie Mar 14 #42
big clue et tu Mar 13 #14
He is a poster child as to what would become of US with Trump trying to skirt any legal accountability Bev54 Mar 13 #16
"This is a stain on the Jewish state." A stain that will not be erased. elocs Mar 13 #20
What the F is a proportional response? Richard D Mar 13 #21
The Porportionality Principle isn't about a response being proportional in damage to an offense. Act_of_Reparation Mar 13 #23
Thank you for the clarification Richard D Mar 13 #26
Keeping an accurate accounting of incidental damages in wartime is virtually impossible. Act_of_Reparation Mar 13 #28
Yah, this was obvious to anyone paying attention NYC2ATL Mar 13 #35
Nuttyahoo must be shown the door. Time for that motherfucker to step aside and let someone rational fucking lead. SoFlaBro Mar 14 #39
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