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radius777

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59. Hamas is a terror group long supported by Netanyahu.

Thu Feb 29, 2024, 04:53 PM

Feb 29

The fate of the Palestinian people should not rest with Hamas or Netanyahu. It should be on the West (who funds Israel) to demand regime change in Israel and and new direction as condition of support, and we should demand more protections for Palestinian civilians.

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13,000 dead children in Gaza [View all] malaise Feb 29 OP

"Official Figures"? maxsolomon Feb 29 #1

And the Traildogbob Feb 29 #3

I think last month I read around 550 dead Ukrainian kids in 2 yrs womanofthehills Feb 29 #18

So the Israelis are making themselves look "worse than the Russians" DemocraticPatriot Mar 1 #130

Figures enid602 Feb 29 #4

They expect the number under the rubble womanofthehills Feb 29 #21

Yikes enid602 Feb 29 #22

How safe are the hostages? Omnipresent Mar 1 #129

They keep tallies on the dead - womanofthehills Feb 29 #12

Gaza enid602 Feb 29 #28

Keep telling yourself that iemanja Feb 29 #70

Telling myself what? maxsolomon Feb 29 #79

Our tax dollars go to fund the weapons to execute those deaths iemanja Feb 29 #81

As I said, I was focusing on the "official" portion of the OP. I'm not "dismissing". maxsolomon Feb 29 #88

Right....'official figures' supplied by TERRORISTS nt GuppyGal Mar 1 #118

"Do untto others as you'd have them do unto you" yagotme Feb 29 #2

There are people out there sarisataka Feb 29 #5

Yes, I know. That's kinda why I asked for the clarification... nt yagotme Feb 29 #6

just as RocRizzo55 Feb 29 #13

There are some who will support Israel sarisataka Feb 29 #20

The key here is RocRizzo55 Feb 29 #71

BS former9thward Feb 29 #101

From the NY Times RocRizzo55 Feb 29 #110

Thanks, but paywalled. former9thward Feb 29 #111

Sorry about that RocRizzo55 Feb 29 #113

"Dismissed as aspirational" maxsolomon Mar 1 #123

Wrong RocRizzo55 Mar 1 #124

Non sequitur. Does not address your LIHOP or MIHOP assertion. maxsolomon Mar 1 #125

The Times of Israel & Haaretz report one baby killed womanofthehills Feb 29 #34

So if Israel stopped when 10 kids were killed sarisataka Feb 29 #38

Hamas killed kids and babies on Oct. 7 INTENTIONALLY and sadistically. SunSeeker Feb 29 #45

So the IDF had no idea that their actions in Gaza Voltaire2 Mar 1 #127

The IDF was not and is not targeting civilians, they are targeting Hamas. SunSeeker Mar 1 #133

So the IDF is just massively incompetent? Voltaire2 Mar 1 #135

The IDF did not "miss the target 10,000 times." They have been hitting Hamas. SunSeeker Mar 1 #136

What? Huh? I've seen no evidence of that. Please cite examples. nt TeamProg Feb 29 #40

Rlly? sarisataka Feb 29 #51

Um, previous DU links, from "here"? TeamProg Feb 29 #62

You know as well as I do sarisataka Feb 29 #68

I've asked to be DMd their names so we can be sure to put them on block. When I get those names I'll let you know Nanjeanne Feb 29 #96

Please let me know Goddessartist Feb 29 #103

Clearly there are many who believe the Israeli military is justified in killing iemanja Feb 29 #72

Do Jewish lives matter? sarisataka Feb 29 #75

I said EVERY life matters iemanja Feb 29 #77

It may surprise you sarisataka Feb 29 #84

Hamas did something unjustifiable and horrible: they killed civilians. Voltaire2 Feb 29 #91

Intentionally killing civilians, yes sarisataka Feb 29 #93

of course. There is always a conditional response. Voltaire2 Feb 29 #95

You guess wrong sarisataka Feb 29 #97

I'm guessing that the answer to your question is also a big NO. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 3 #142

There are people on DU who believe Hamas has done nothing wrong? And they are still members? Nanjeanne Feb 29 #94

I would have to look them up sarisataka Feb 29 #99

Thanks. I've had many conversations with people I absolutely disagree with but I've never run into anyone who thinks Nanjeanne Feb 29 #100

They're Freedom Fighters like Mandela! AZSkiffyGeek Feb 29 #102

Why not both ExciteBike66 Feb 29 #7

Possibly. I don't know. I'm guessing you don't know for sure, either. yagotme Feb 29 #8

No RocRizzo55 Feb 29 #14

What if that's true? Captain Stern Feb 29 #43

Hypotheticaly RocRizzo55 Feb 29 #66

For how long? Forever? n/t Captain Stern Mar 1 #120

Far right Likud started this by IDF raid of the Al-Aqsa Mosque radius777 Feb 29 #32

According to previous posts, Hamas has been planning this prior to Apr '23. yagotme Mar 1 #114

And Bibi/Likud have been intentionally provoking radius777 Mar 1 #134

Since Hamas has 16 & 17 members some were no doubt EX500rider Feb 29 #39

Officially? maxsolomon Feb 29 #83

Wow obamanut2012 Feb 29 #9

Glad it hit you that hard. yagotme Feb 29 #10

Post removed Post removed Feb 29 #16

IBTL sarisataka Feb 29 #23

Such Projection. Cha Feb 29 #26

No, it hit me that you are using an ancient religious text to support what is happening in gaza obamanut2012 Feb 29 #24

If you read up thread a bit, another poster quoted part of the rule. yagotme Mar 1 #115

Because Hamas drove the Palestinians out of Israel in '49. ... marble falls Feb 29 #33

Both are deserving of condemnation Chautauquas Feb 29 #17

According to . . . Richard D Feb 29 #11

I think a lot of Americans are conscious of their anti-semitism JustAnotherGen Feb 29 #19

I think you are sadly mistaken about who is to blame PTL_Mancuso Feb 29 #29

So then, according to your rationalization . . . Richard D Feb 29 #31

And by the way . . . Richard D Feb 29 #37

There's a ton of missing history in this post. Ace Rothstein Feb 29 #47

I think you're sadly mistaken & Fuck the Butchers Gang Rapists of HAMAS. Cha Feb 29 #60

Why was the wall built? yagotme Mar 1 #116

Wait Diraven Feb 29 #52

Unfortunately believe this is going to cause a Young voter issue for Biden.. DemocratInPa Feb 29 #15

Are your JustAnotherGen Feb 29 #25

White.. DemocratInPa Feb 29 #56

That's sad JustAnotherGen Mar 1 #138

What is the point of this post? themaguffin Feb 29 #27

Our tax dollars at work. marble falls Feb 29 #30

I got nothin'. twodogsbarking Feb 29 #35

Those are not official figures. Those are Hamas Health Ministry figures. SunSeeker Feb 29 #36

They also give no age breakdown on the "children" EX500rider Feb 29 #41

They teach them a lot younger than that there... nt yagotme Mar 1 #117

Wonder how many would be alive if Hammas had released the hostages they kidnapped. WiseElder Feb 29 #42

Agreed! perdita9 Feb 29 #48

IDF shot at food aid trucks causing stampede, 100 dead, radius777 Feb 29 #44

No, the stampeding of the aid trucks occured first. It was not caused by IDF. SunSeeker Feb 29 #49

I don't agree, saw it on CNN and both Jeremy Diamond radius777 Feb 29 #53

CNN has offerred no evidence that the stampede was caused by IDF forces. SunSeeker Mar 1 #139

We are going to lose our country because of this. edisdead Feb 29 #46

Yup. A lot of people are letting themselves get played by Hamas/Putin propaganda. nt SunSeeker Feb 29 #50

They are responding to US policy iemanja Feb 29 #74

No, they are responding to lies. Which they have a right to believe. But it hurts us all. SunSeeker Feb 29 #76

What is the lie? iemanja Feb 29 #78

The lie that Israel is intentionally killing innocent civilians with our help. nt SunSeeker Feb 29 #80

We provide the weapons iemanja Feb 29 #82

If you can't see the difference between Hamas intentionally going out to kill babies in their cribs in Israel... SunSeeker Feb 29 #85

That is simply a fact. Voltaire2 Feb 29 #92

Of course they understand that Hamas is using civilians as human shields. SunSeeker Mar 1 #137

"We have little to zero control of what Israel does." Absurd. Israel receives radius777 Feb 29 #55

You are aware sarisataka Feb 29 #57

Hamas is a terror group long supported by Netanyahu. radius777 Feb 29 #59

I know who Hamas is and sarisataka Feb 29 #61

The West should recognize a Palestinian state radius777 Feb 29 #64

I do not disagree about Likud sarisataka Feb 29 #73

Until Israel agrees to a 2 state solition? edisdead Feb 29 #106

The US can withhold material aid for the military campaign. David__77 Feb 29 #69

We who? Biden veto-ing it? edisdead Feb 29 #108

They said the same thing RocRizzo55 Feb 29 #112

Circumstances are very different though edisdead Mar 1 #121

Why would Hamas do this to their own people? Bonx Feb 29 #54

Hamas does not care about Palestinians, radius777 Feb 29 #58

Because the Israeli government has no responsibility for their own actions? iemanja Feb 29 #65

Hamas is not a "handful" of terrorists. It is the government of Gaza. nt SunSeeker Feb 29 #87

Hamas' forces are estimated at 30-40 thousand, maxsolomon Feb 29 #89

THIS malaise Mar 1 #128

They shouldn't have voted for Hamas. Oh wait... onecaliberal Feb 29 #63

The US has sent weapons there on an emergency basis to facilitate this military campaign. David__77 Feb 29 #67

You mean figures from that highly accurate Gaza Health Ministry? SlimJimmy Feb 29 #86

Their estimation track record is aligned with the UN and with Israel's. David__77 Feb 29 #90

The Ministry's track record in THIS conflict has not aligned with the UN and Israel. SunSeeker Feb 29 #98

I read this article before. And want to point out the main point (buried in the middle) SlimJimmy Mar 3 #141

You won't get a response. nt GuppyGal Mar 1 #119

they got a response within 13 minutes, around SIXTEEN hours before you said they would not get a response Celerity Mar 1 #140

Enough. Aussie105 Feb 29 #104

It is sickening malaise Feb 29 #105

Yes, it is. Aussie105 Feb 29 #107

We are in tthe same group malaise Feb 29 #109

DURec leftstreet Mar 1 #122

To borrow from Neil Young gay texan Mar 1 #126

Ceasefire alone is pro-Hamas. Support peace. keithbvadu2 Mar 1 #131

Ceasefire alone keithbvadu2 Mar 1 #132